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how do you tell if you cracked the block or just blew a head gasket if there is white smoke coming from tail pipe?

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Hello,

There in no guaranteed diagnoses without tearing the engine down. The heads have to come off for a first step. The heads may require machining and being checked for cracks at a machine shop.
As for a head gasket, the damage from being blown, is obvious. If you eliminate these items as being the problem, the cylinder walls will need to be checked for a cracked water jacket.

The problem is that you do not know what you have without a visual examination after tear down and after the machine shop knows the condition of the heads.

More importantly, is once you determine the problem, you need to figure out why it over heated in the first place to cause this event. You don't want to change a headgasket, mill the heads, have them checked for cracks and find that the engine still overheats and you do damage again.

These Cadillac aluminum engines can never be subjected to over heating or they end up like yours.

This has been a know problem with their engines since 1982 forward. The 4.1, 4.5, 4.9 and northstar had these issues. In fact, many came new with a factory knock from poor fitting wristpins for the pistons. You would think for the money they got for these cars new, that they would have come with a decent engine.

I have owned 25 Cadillacs from new to used and I love them, but some owners get offended when I call them money pits, as you are about to find out. In the event you have a cracked block, you cannot just go to a local junkyard and get a used engine because chances are the used engine you buy is no better than what you have.

The last time I priced a new GM long block for one of these was $3,800 not counting labor, fluids and accessories. You could be looking at $5,000 installed.


I am not trying to be the bearer of bad news, but I am all too familiar with Cadillac overheating problems. Worse yet, there is no one thing that can cause this event. Bad water pump, plugged radiator/cooling system, radiator cap, dysfunctional electric fans can cause over heating.

Recently someone wrote me about over heating. I suggested possibly the water pump. The pump was changed which had a broken impeller. At the same time, chunks of rust fell out of the engine. Now that engine was fixed but highlights the problem.

At any rate, this is not going to be a cheap repair for you.

I have been real lucky. Personally, I was very careful about overheating. The Allante I just traded off with 62K original started running warm last summer above 80 degrees. I never let the gauge even go to 3/4 or I would shut it down. Good thing it was a convertible because I had to use the heat and defroster to get the gauge to the 1/2 way point.

I am too old to work on cats anymore. I now drive a Chevy Suburban with a gas guzzler 454, but it has a cast iron engine and those you could run hot without doing damage.

Good luck to you and tell me what you find.

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Alarm system questions cannot be answered on this forum. These systems are not what I can answer. Without being physically at the vehicle and not knowing what kind of electrical service has been done on the vehicle, there is no possible way to give an accurate answer over the internet. My expertise is in Ignition/key based anti-theft systems. These issues include GM VATS (resistor chip in key blade) PASSLOCK (MRD)-ignition lock rotation based, no special ignition key and the PKIII Transponder (computer chip in key) systems. These systems are not alarm based and are integral with the starting of the engine. This is why I cannot diagnose alarm problems without physically looking at the vehicle: Alarm systems are a completely different annimal than ignition key/lock based anti-theft system. Many alarm questions come from vehicles 10 years old, and since older, many hands that had been involved over the years.I am an expert in all GM factory (ignition/key based)systems. Alarm system questions pose to many situations beyond my knowledge as to what has been done to the vehicle over the years. Some guy may have actually wired the stereo into the alarm system. Who knows? Over my past 30 years in vehicle wiring repair, I have seen unbelievable wiring disaters done by guys that consider themselves "mechanics." I have seen stereos and alarms intalled using surgical tape. I have seen modules burn up, un-fused circuits, wiring jambed between the doors and even lamp cord used for a starter kill. To answer alarm questions over the internet without examining the vehicle is like asking; What does it take to remove a dent?

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Education/Credentials-ASE certified. 11 years with a GM dealer and 17 years with a repair facility dealing with only the repair of theft recovered vehicles.

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