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i recently changed the waterpump on my 92 cadillac fleetwood 4.9 engine. after complete noticed there was still a leak. removed and installed new gasket again. still a leak. does not seem to be coming from pump but area behind. is there something i missed during the install, or is a sealer required as it states on sticker by radiator.

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Hello,

Cadillac should have put a big orange sticker on the dash of these cars "Warning, this engine can never be run over 220 degrees f. with coolant and 212 f with straight water, or catastrophic damage will occur to this aluminum engine!"

Of course with this label they would have not sold cars, but instead they have made billions on new engines and parts! In fact, this had all the makings of a class action, but GM went bankrupt so good luck on that!

I think I am going to make a video of a fire. Then I will throw an aluminum can in it to demonstrate what happens to aluminum with heat applied. It takes seconds for the can to melt and that is what happens to these fine Cadillac aluminum engines. The problem is so rampant, that if you go to a junk yard to get an engine that has not been destroyed by overheating, it would be a miracle and then you better play the lottery because you have a better chance of winning that before you find a good engine!

Look in my archives, you will see plenty about these engines and their destruction by over heating. By the time the hot light comes on in the cluster, it is already to late!

Its very common for people to drive this aluminum engine hot until they get the car to a "safe" location and all that time, the engine and components are melting down!

My last answer a couple days ago reflects the poor engineering in the aluminum Cadillac engine that premered in 1982. Even AMC and Renault made a better engine in the 80's. It too was aluminum, but pistion liner kits could be installed making it so at least the engine was not destroyed. The Renault Alliance and Encore engines were engineered better, however it is my opinion Cadillac just wanted to steal billions from the drivers of their fine cars. Cadillac made the money on new engine, parts and replacement cars.

You have a better chance of winning the lottery than you do finding a good engine in the junk yard. 99% of junk yard engines are just that--junk!

A 1992 with the 4.9 also gives you very few options because the 1990 had a 4.5 and I believe the 1991 did as well and in 1993 the 4.6 North star was introduced.

Now, to your question and to what else could be leaking. If not a hose, could be a problem with a freeze plug or more likely a blown head gasket which is never the cause, but the effect of overheating. These engines are so problematic. What you need is for a service center (not a dealer because Cadillac already ripped you off indirectly by making this engine with its lack of prevention to keep the engine from overheating) and have a cooling system pressure test to find the leak. As I said, I am leaning towards a head gasket, cracked head or even a cracked engine block. Hopefully it is not as serious.

There are 2 problems changing a head gasket. You don't know what caused the over heating in the first place unless you know for a fact that the water pump was bad. Maybe you did not need a water pump but a head gasket instead. In that case, you need to fix the reason for overheating before you go driving off or a half hour later you will need another head gasket or two!

The other problem is that after the head gasket is changed if that was the problem, you don't know what other engine damage there is. This has the potential to turn into a money funnel real quickly.

Look at my archives on this site for overheating damage to the aluminum engine in a Cadillac.

I really wish you nothing but the best here. It would have been nice like Cadillac and others did with oil pressure. If oil pressure got to low, the engine would stall. They should have done that for overheating as well!


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I have owned 20 Cadillacs and I am more familiar than most with these overheating issues.  

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Alarm system questions cannot be answered on this forum. These systems are not what I can answer. Without being physically at the vehicle and not knowing what kind of electrical service has been done on the vehicle, there is no possible way to give an accurate answer over the internet. My expertise is in Ignition/key based anti-theft systems. These issues include GM VATS (resistor chip in key blade) PASSLOCK (MRD)-ignition lock rotation based, no special ignition key and the PKIII Transponder (computer chip in key) systems. These systems are not alarm based and are integral with the starting of the engine. This is why I cannot diagnose alarm problems without physically looking at the vehicle: Alarm systems are a completely different annimal than ignition key/lock based anti-theft system. Many alarm questions come from vehicles 10 years old, and since older, many hands that had been involved over the years.I am an expert in all GM factory (ignition/key based)systems. Alarm system questions pose to many situations beyond my knowledge as to what has been done to the vehicle over the years. Some guy may have actually wired the stereo into the alarm system. Who knows? Over my past 30 years in vehicle wiring repair, I have seen unbelievable wiring disaters done by guys that consider themselves "mechanics." I have seen stereos and alarms intalled using surgical tape. I have seen modules burn up, un-fused circuits, wiring jambed between the doors and even lamp cord used for a starter kill. To answer alarm questions over the internet without examining the vehicle is like asking; What does it take to remove a dent?

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Education/Credentials-ASE certified. 11 years with a GM dealer and 17 years with a repair facility dealing with only the repair of theft recovered vehicles.

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