Calculus/Functions - domain and range.
Expert: Paul Klarreich - 12/4/2009
QuestionPaul,
We are working on a packet for math and have a couple questions we can't figure out. Here they are:
Let f be the function given by f(x)=ln(abs(x/x-1)). We found the domain of (-inf, 1)U(1, inf) but can't figure out part two: Find the value of the derivative of f at x=-1. How does the absolute value affect the derivative? Part 3 is to write an expression for f^-1(x), where f^-1 denotes the inverse function of f. Can you find an inverse function of an absolute value function?
Also, how do you find the range of f(x)=((abs(x))-2)/(x-2)? We know it is -1<x< or equal to 1, but we're not sure how to prove it. We said that f(x)=1 for all x> or equal to 0, but what do you do about x<0?
Thanks so much.
--Sam, Meghan, Amy Rose
AnswerQuestioner: Sam, Meghan, and Amy Rose
Country: United States
Category: Calculus
Private: No
Subject: AP Calculus BC
Question: Paul,
We are working on a packet for math and have a couple questions we can't figure out. Here they are:
Let f be the function given by f(x)=ln(abs(x/x-1)). We found the domain of (-inf, 1)U(1, inf) but can't figure out part two: Find the value of the derivative of f at x=-1. How does the absolute value affect the derivative? Part 3 is to write an expression for f^-1(x), where f^-1 denotes the inverse function of f. Can you find an inverse function of an absolute value function?
Also, how do you find the range of f(x)=((abs(x))-2)/(x-2)? We know it is -1 < x <= 1, but we're not sure how to prove it. We said that f(x)=1 for all x> or equal to 0, but what do you do about x<0?
Thanks so much.
--Sam, Meghan, Amy Rose
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About ln(abs(x/(x-1))) << which needed one more set of ()
You should start by analyzing:
x
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x - 1
You should work out that it is > 0 [positive] everywhere except between 0 and 1. (solution upon request)
So there is no real difficulty at x = -1. (Naturally, x = 1 and x = 0 are bad news.)
At x = -1: x/(x-1) is positive, so
abs(x/(x-1)) is just x/(x-1), so you can go ahead and differentiate it as:
f(x) = ln(x/(x-1)) = ln x - ln(x-1)
f'(x) = 1/x - 1/(x-1), and
f'(-1) = 1/(-1) - 1/(-1-1) = oh, you can work out all those minuses -- I hate them, too.
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About inverses: You asked:
Can you find an inverse function of an absolute value function?
Well, yes and no. If you are interested in f-inv around a particular point, absolutely yes.
If you want to determine if f-inv exists for all x as a function, then not always.
So, if you limit x to x NOT BETWEEN 0 AND 1, then you write:
y = ln(x/(x-1))
and if you limit x to x YES BETWEEN 0 AND 1, then you write:
y = ln(-x/(x-1))
and in either case do your standard 'find-the-inverse' routine. (Again, solution on request.)
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You wrote:
f(x)=((abs(x)-2)/(x-2)? << too many () this time. [I know -- it's hard to see them on the computer.]
YOU ARE SURE YOU DID NOT MEAN: f(x)=(abs(x-2))/(x-2), RIGHT?
We know it is -1 < x <= 1
OK, do the same thing -- Analyze it:
For x > 0:
f(x)=(x-2)/(x-2) = 1. So the range on the right is just one number: y = 1.
For x < 0:
x + 2
f(x)=(-x-2)/(x-2) = - ------
x - 2
Now you can just analyze that function. You will find:
as x --> minus infinity, f(x) --> -1
F(0) = - 2/ -2 = 1
(x-2)(1) - (x+2)(1)
f'(x) = - --------------------
(x - 2)^2
x - 2 - x - 2
f'(x) = - ---------------
(x - 2)^2
+ 4
f'(x) = -----------
(x - 2)^2
which is ALWAYS POSITIVE.
So the graph always rises :
from f(-inf) "=" -1 (the horizontal asymptote) to f(0) = +1.
I think that does it.
Let me know if you need more elucidation.
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