Expert: Scotto - 7/23/2009

Question
QUESTION: Upon further reflection, I should fully expound on the nature of the question: Can tornadoes mimic minimum surface area and minimum volume based upon the Hyperboloid of One Sheet's cloud volume of piabH[1+1/3(H^2/c^2)] being minimized to 4piabH/3 which is decidedly smaller? All of this is predicated upon the cardioid which meteorologically is derived from the pressure field and horizontal velocity balancing terms from

         du/dt=-1/rhopartial pressure/partial x+fv
         dv/dt=-1/rhopartial pressure/partial y-fu

The cardioid as solution is derived from the two being added together with the term,f(u-v), subjected to double integration(usually in a zonal format). This process is usually called Prandtlian due to his work on the planetary boundary layer and Ekman Spiral solutions!  At any rate, I have applied the cardioid to tornado outbreaks, predicating the time and place of initial tornadoes of each newly developing family of storms to that of locating critical points on the cardioid's curve. THEY MATCH! Hence, tornado outbreaks are simply locations of storms associated with air mass/pressure displacements which should be readily discovered. For an example, in the Super outbreak of '74 with 148 tornadoes, the area of the four storms with largest area for that day, at 20,000 square miles, is the largest area ever encountered. This is basically an impulse involving four storms occurring at critical points on the curve enveloping 20,000 square miles with A=about 90 statute miles. Hence the total length of the curve is 360 statute miles. The cardioid is implicated in tornado outbreaks!

ANSWER: I can grashp what you're talking about and it really sounds interesting.
If they just had a network of measuring devices where tornades occur,
they would definitly have an upper hand the next time one struck.


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QUESTION: As a follow-up to this discussion, I might say that I have had a discussion with EigenSteve of your All Experts group regarding tornado outbreaks as deterministic vs. random events and he was apprising what might be called Quasi-Periodicity regarding a finding which I made of the Super outbreak of '74, the 148 tornadoes and largest outbreak ever encountered. What I found dealt with a seemingly obvious series/sequencing of storms whcih was deemed most definitely an alternating series/sequence process what I would describe as seen in mechanistic ESCAPEMENT, seen in clockworks. Every fifth storm starts a new series/sequenc pattern in an alternating -cos,-sin,-cos,-sin, . . . relationship. When a tornado wasn't found to be "slotted" accordingly, I found a funnel cloud in that location(obviously, tornadoes and funnel clouds are different statistically and would ahve been overlooked). Imagine being able to discern this pattern and aid and abet forecasting as a result. If you know of people in an institution or university who would be interested in this, by all means feel free to pass this along. I discovered this thirty-three years ago in a medical institution and therefore lack the means to continue or to exhort this on! Essentially, I think that I understand the placement and timing of tornado outbreaks!

Answer
I don't know of anyone since I'm in Washington where we don't see tornadoes much at all
(I've never seen one to move anything more than and ounce.
I've also never seen any where the funnel was more than a very small collection of dust.).

What to do is contact the local weatherman with a list of old tornadoes and
a list of predictions that said where and when they'd be located.

Try the local news startion.  If your predictions are accurate and tornadoes occur,
I'm sure they'd be interested.