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What is the value of a Kodak Ciro Flex 85mm Model E

         Made by Wollensak Rochester

Hello John,

The Ciroflex wasn't made by Kodak, no relation at all, and it wasn't made by Wollensak either, who was a lens manufacturer. The Ciroflex was made by Ciro Cameras, Inc., of Ohio. It's a rather cheaply designed twin-lens-reflex camera, produced in the late 1940's, for 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 inch exposures on #120 roll film. Very common, and there isn't much to commend it. However, the past couple of years it's become something of a "cult" camera, and although the market is a bit volatile, I've seen truly excellent working examples of the later versions with better lenses and shutters (the E and F) selling from as low as $60 to a high of about $120. There's no reasonable explanation for it, a few years ago you couldn't give away one of these beasts for free, but lately a new wave of camera collectors has been buying them and paying good prices. To be fair, I've used a couple examples of the Ciroflex long ago, just out of curiosity, and the results were quite nice. There are zillions of them floating around, so if your intention is to sell, do it now before the market saturates.

Best wishes,

David F. Silver - President
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