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I have Leica D.R.P. Ernst Leitz Wetzlar, Germany. and the serial number is 592571. The lense says..Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Summitar f=5cm 1:2 Nr911825.

I also have a Leica DBP Ernst Leitz GMBH Wetzlar, Germany. and the serial number is 825164.  The lense says..Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Summaron f=35cm 1:35 (no serial number on this one)

I have a spare lense with the set I found that says Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Elmar f=9cm 1:4 Nr.960570  


I have not been able to find any information on these products.

Could you please help?
Sean Rutherford

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Hello Sean,

The camera with serial #592571 is a Leica IIIf "black dial", a basic 35mm coupled rangefinder camera, made by Leitz of Germany in 1952.  This was the first new model of camera Leitz introduced after World War II, it's rather common (about 71,000 sold from 1950 to early 1953), and it had a number of problems, especially with the shutter mechanism.  A truly excellent example, with an appropriate Leitz lens (like the Summitar) would sell for around $300 today, but it MUST be excellent.

The camera with serial #825164 is the much improved Leica IIIf "red dial", and this one was made in 1956.  It is more common (over 110,000 were sold from 1953 to 1957), but it's a MUCH better camera than the "black dial" version.  A truly excellent example, with appropriate Leitz lens (you should have a Summitar on this as well, but the Summaron is okay) would sell for around $500.

The Elmar 9cm f4 lens is the single most common inexpensive telephoto lens Leitz ever made.  Nearly 150,000 were sold from 1933 to 1967.  Yours dates from 1952.  Not much value today.  Truly excellent examples bring around $50.

No great treasures here, but good sturdy Leitz gear.  A bit hard to sell because it's some of their more common pieces.  If you wish to sell, drop me a line at <silver@well.com> and I'll gladly recommend several good honest collectors you can contact directly for a quick stress-free transaction.  Otherwise this sort of thing can be hard to market.

Best wishes,

David Silver

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