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We adopted two 9 wk old Shih Tzu’s. They are 8 months old. About 2 months ago, they have started growling and biting each other.They don't do this with humans. After they fight, or we pull them apart, they seem better and fall asleep together. We separate them, hold them firmly around the back oh the neck and say NO!!!  They don't listen. This happens about 2-3 times a day and sometimes not at all. They are very sweet and precious. They do play well together and like to be near each other. They are not fixed yet.
Thank you in advance for your help.

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Hi there.

Thanks for the question.

The trick to stopping this behavior is to supervise them more closely when they're playing together rather than coming in after the fact, and scolding them and punishing them. They see that as aggression on your part, which doesn't help the aggressive feelings, that have bubbled up and boiled over during play, dissipate. It usually only makes the aggression continue to show up during play.

Have you trained them? If so, what training method did you use, treat training or being the pack leader?

While I wait to hear back from you, teach them what "Wait..." and "Okay!" mean. For instance, when it's time to go for a walk, stop at the front door, say, "Wait..." and then when they show a little impulse control, say, "Okay!" and let them through the door. This has nothing to do with showing them that you're the pack leader; there's no such thing as a pack leader in wild wolf packs, so dogs can't have inherited an instinct to follow an imaginary creature that doesn't exist in nature. It's a way of teaching these pups a bit of impulse control. You can do the same thing with a lot of other situations, when you put their food bowls down, for instance. The point is you want them to be able to respond to the "Wait..." by showing a moment of impulse control, and you want them to feel that "Okay!" means whatever they were doing at the moment is over and it's time to move on to something cool, like eating or going for a walk.

Once they've learned what "Wait..." and "Okay!" mean, and you put yourself in a better position to monitor them more closely when they play, you can use either of these "commands" to stop a fight from starting up, or to stop it when it does. What I normally do is use "Wait..." when I sense the dogs are starting to feel more tension than I'd like. And I use "Okay!" (in a happy voice) to stop the fight from happening.

If you can't stop the fight from happening, you have to intervene physically, but you must STOP grabbing them by the neck and shouting "No!" If you've already stopped the fight, that means it's over. And THAT means that any further punishment or scolding is not only ineffective you're essentially punishing and scolding the dogs for stopping! So don't do it. You should praise them profusely once they've stopped. In some cases I'll even praise a dog in order to stop a fight from happening!

I hope this helps. Let me know how they were trained, if they were.

LCK

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I've been training dogs in New York City for nearly 20 years. My training approach and philosophy are based on the way police dogs, search-and-rescue dogs, and detection dogs are trained--through the prey drive, inherited from the wolf. It's true that there's been a shift away from using the "wolf model" in dog training recently, and to some extent, there's a good reason. That's because trainers have been using the wrong model, the one that says you have to be the "alpha" or the pack leader in order to control your dog's behavior. This simply isn't true. In wild wolves there is no dominance hierarchy, no "alpha" wolf, and no pack leader (not in the traditional sense). The pack instinct only exists to enable wolves to hunt large prey by working in harmony. (Wolves who live near garbage dumps, for example, and who don't hunt together, don't form packs.) So if wolves don't have an instinct to "follow the pack leader" or "obey the alpha wolf," how could dogs have inherited it from them?

Years ago, before I became a dog trainer, I noticed that the happiest, most obedient, and best-behaved dogs I met weren't the ones who'd been to a dog trainer or behaviorist; they were the dogs whose owners always had Frisbees and tennis balls on hand. And while it might seem that my approach would only be relevant to high-drive dogs who love fetch and tug-of-war, it isn't. Even something as seemingly unrelated as a housebreaking issue or greeting behavior are often the direct result of a dog's predatory energy not having an acceptable outlet.

All behavior is an expression of energy. So when a dog's energy isn't utilized in a way that feels satisfying to his or her instincts and emotions, that's when behavioral problems develop. Giving the dog an acceptable outlet for its energy will almost always bring the dog's behavior back into alignment with its instincts

Feel free to ask me questions about any training/behavioral issue.

LCK

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20 years as a dog trainer. I'm also a bestselling author, writing a series of dog-related mystery novels for Avon.

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Dog Writers Association of America

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Just a natural gift I have for understanding and training dogs

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Too numerous to mention.

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