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Hi, I have a Jack Russel mix that is 7 years old named Buster. He has always had strange "quirks" that a normal dog just doesnt do (we also have another JR that acts like any typical dog). The one that he has begun recently is constant spinning in circles. This happens when you use a cell phone in any way, a remote control, or even if you hold your hand in a certain position. When he sees this he begins whining then starts spinning uncontrollably and barking. He will do this until he falls over or I grab him. You can tell he is very dizzy and disoriented when done because he cant walk and his head is leaning to the side. Its gotten to the point that he gets put in his crate or we have to watch what we do so that he wont get hysterical. Problem is that we have a 1 yr old and like to take lots of pics. This tends to put a damper on any cute videos because there is a whacko dog in the background.

Does this seem like something neurological or treatable with some kind of meds or therapy?

It sounds like he's been reinforced (probably unintentionally) for the behavior of spinning, and certain things in the environment have become cues to begin the behavior. Now, that being said, it also sounds like it's gotten out of control, causing him stress/anxiety (whining before he begins the behavior) and continuing until he's made himself thoroughly dizzy. We need to remember that dogs (like all animals, including humans) only do behaviors that are beneficial to them in some way. This can be as simple as "it's fun!" or that he is getting some other need met such as food, attention, affection, access to preferred locations, etc. So, if he initially spun a couple times (e.g. chasing his tail), it may have just been a fun way to expel some energy. If someone initially laughed at him and played with him at that time, then they reinforced the tail-chasing/spinning behavior. Then, perhaps he got ignored when he spun for just 5 seconds, but if he kept it up for 8 or 10 seconds, someone engaged with him, and so he learned quickly that he should keep spinning as he'll get reinforced eventually. Now, it may be that your grabbing him is reinforcing because it's physical interaction. But, he's also experiencing an anxiety surrounding the behavior. Perhaps it's not so fun anymore, but he's still compelled to do it...

It could be that the behavior falls on the Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) scale, but that's something for a vet to diagnose. Some canine seizures can be very odd in the way they manifest, so I suppose it's possible that this could be related to a neurological condition that's being triggered (as opposed to a behavioral issue that's being triggered).

In either case, we want to help your guy eliminate this behavior from his repertoire. I would begin with a complete exam (including blood work) with your regular vet, this will help us make sure he's healthy. Next, I would meet with a veterinary behaviorist (this is a vet who has continued on to earn a Master's in animal behavior) - they are the psychiatrists of the animal world. They will want the report for exam from your regular vet, so it's easiest to just start with your regular vet. If there are no vet behaviorists near you, your vet can contact any vet behaviorist in the nation for a free (usually free) phone consultation. They may want video of an example of the behavior (ideally from 10-90 seconds before the onset of the behavior until he stops the behavior on his own, or the typical way the humans stop the behavior) for review.

It may be determined that medication is necessary to help your pup. But, meds are never to be prescribed as the entire treatment. They are only to be used in conjunction with a proper behavior modification protocol. The vet behaviorist will devise the protocol and help you implement it, or they're work with a local trainer who will do the actual training part with you. Generally, the meds are used only temporarily while the training is happening, then once we get "over the hump" of the behavior issue, the meds are weaned out if possible.

The behavior modification protocol will include interrupting and redirecting the dog's behavior to another, more acceptable activity. Then, it will build on that to teach the dog incompatible behaviors (e.g. if he's laying down, he can't also be spinning). Then we teach him that the cues that normally trigger the spinning behavior, are now cues to do the incompatible behavior.

Good luck. Please feel free to followup if I can be of further assistance (or just to update me on the diagnosis/prognosis/treatment).

Jody, APDT
Los Angeles Behaviorist

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