Careers: Military--Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines, Coast Guard/Discharges Under DADT

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Rod,

It was recently revealed that the Army will ship a soldier to Iraq if he declares his homosexuality after it has been announced he will be deployed.  Is this because of the suspect nature of such a declaration at the time, and because regulations now allow commanders to investigate?

What wasn't made clear was whether or not once a soldier is deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan or a U.N. peace keeping mission the military would investigate the claim then or wait for the soldier's return to the States.  What usually happens?

Thanks.

Stefen
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Rod,

You recently had an interesting statement in USA Today.  You said "commanders aren't buying it when someone says they're a homosexual."

Could you explain why this is so?  Are military personnel becoming more tolerant or are commanders unwilling to discharge soldiers in this time of manpower shortages?  Do you have any evidence for this statement?

I would like to know.  I'm a reporter for Gay City News, a New York paper, and your insight could be the basis for an interesting article on DADT.

Thank you.

Stefen Styrsky
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Hi Stefen,

Actually, I was misquoted (a little).  What I actually said was "commanders aren't NECESSARILY buying it when someone says they're a homosexual."

A public statement about being a homosexual or bi-sexual, used to result in a pretty-much automatic discharge, with little or no investigation into the truth of the statement.

During the first Gulf War (Desert Shield/Desert Storm), there were a number of troops who claimed homosexuality -- co-incidently -- after they were tagged for deployment.  

Shortly after (1993), DoD changed their guidelines to allow commanders to investigate such statements, and if they found that such statements to be untrue, discharge was not mandatory (See DoD Directive 1332.14, paragraph E3.A1.1.8.1.2.2., on page 27, at: http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/d133214wch1_122193/d133214p.pdf).

Since the change, more and more commanders are initiating investigations into such statements, before deciding on whether or not to proceed with discharge, most especially if there are indications that the member is trying to use the policy (untruthfully) as a method of discharge.

Hope this helps!

Rod Powers
http://usmilitary.about.com


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Hi Stephen,

Claims of homosexuality made, after an individual has been notified of an upcoming deployment have to be viewed with a degree of skeptism.  Most commanders will initiate investigations into such claims to determine their validity, before deciding what action is appropriate.  However, if there is a hard, fast rule that such soldiers *will* be deployed, in all cases, this is the first I've ever heard of it.

If such a declaration were made after a deployment began, my gut feeling is that it would be viewed with a great deal of skeptism.  While such decisions are always at the descretion of the commanding officer, I think most commanders would probably initiate a preliminary investigation, with what information and resources he/she has available in the deployment location, before deciding whether or not it warrants the early return of the military member for full investigation at the home station.

Hope this helps!

Rod Powers
http://usmilitary.about.com  

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Rod Powers is considered one of the premire experts about U.S. Military career information on the planet. He has more than 30,000 articles about U.S. Military career information on the About.com U.S. Military Careers Information website at: http://usmilitary.about.com. Additionally, he is the author of "ASVAB for Dummies," "ASVAB AFQT for Dummies," (available in Dec 2009), and "Veteran Benefits for Dummies," all published by Wiley Publishing. He is also the author of "Barrons' Guide to Officer Candidate School Tests," published by Barron's Educational Series.

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Rod Powers is a retired Air Force first sergeant, with 23 years of active duty service, 11 of those years as an Air Force First Sergeant. He has helped thousands of military members, recruits, and military applicants since he took over the About.com U.S Military Careers Information site in 1999. He has a reputation for "telling it like it is," so questions may not be answered based on "what you want to hear," but will be answered based of the bast available information, concerning the service/situation.

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Rod is a distinguished graduate of the Air Force Noncommissioned Officers Academy, the Air Force Senior Noncommissioned Officer Academy, and the Air Force First Sergeant Academy. He also holds an Associates Degree in Personnel Administration from the Community College of the Air Force (CCAF).

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