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QUESTION: I was wondering just how many years you would have to do in uniform to be put in homicide? and when your in uniform can you choose what u want work on? like for instance can I choose to work on a murder case?

ANSWER: Chris,

  I probably should put something on my profile about this time thing because I get a ton of questions just like yours.

  There is no nationally set time limit for an officer to work in uniform before he is allowed to be a detective.  That is because each police department in this country works independantly of each other and no two departments operate the same.  However it would be safe to say that no reputable police department is going to allow an officer with less than ten years on the street to work in homicide.  They would simply not have enough experience.

  When you are in uniform you work on what life deals you.  In other words if you get a call for a stolen bicycle you work on that.  If you get a call for a missing 85 year old woman you work on that.  While a uniformed officer usually is the first one on the scene of a homicide they do not "work on it".  The officer does what is required of him and the case is worked by detectives.

  Just in case you are getting your idea about Homicide from some tv show let me tell you this.  NOTHING that you see on television is realistic.  No show accurately depicts police work.

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QUESTION: Okay..im 16 years old and I wanted to know whats the best route to become an officer and then a homicide detective in other words what are the steps to join a force?

ANSWER: Ok it sounds like you want a concise answer.

Maintain a perfect disciplinary and near perfect attendance record in high school.  Have a high GPA  Graduate from college.  Have no traffic tickets, use no drugs, do not drink to the excess, and of course have no arrest record.  

Get hired by a police department.  About 10 - 15% of applicants are actually hired.  The rest are washed out somewhere during the process.
The process is an apptitude test, oral interviews, writing samples, a thorough background investigation, more oral interviews, a physical exam, a physical test, and polygraph.  Assuming that you get through all of this then there is the police academy which you must gradute from.  About 80% of a class usually graduates.  The other 20% gets booted out.

Spend 10 - 15 years in uniform and if you do well and are recommended you might get a position in homicide.



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QUESTION: What is the salary when working with homicide is it a little bit more than an officer in uniform?

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No there is no difference.  A detective is a police officer who does not wear a uniform.  A detective might make a little more if you add in the overtime and being away from home for 24 - 48 hours working on a case or going to court but the base salary is no different.

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U.S.: I am an expert in this category for the purpose of giving young people an idea what the hiring process involves for the position of police officer. I am getting a flood of questions from young people who are being influenced by unrealistic television shows. I'd ask you to consider that when you watch police shows on television that they are NOT realistic and most of what you see does not happen in real life. Please do not ask me about potential jail sentences that you, your friends, or family might receive in court. There is no way for me to know that. I am NOT a probation officer so I cannot answer questions about probation and parole matters. I am a retired police officer with 26 years experience.I worked in a variety of assignments including investigations, homicide, sex crimes, runaway investigations, missing persons, and fraud.I also dealt with the general public during that time giving a wide range of advice on matters such as domestic disputes, problem solving, teenage problems, civil/criminal matters, and dealing with the mentally ill. I am available to give sound and reasonable advice which can solve most problems. Please do not ask me to do homework questions or online interviews. Young people should not rely on the Internet for interviews. Local police officers are normally very agreeable to assist students with interviews and surveys.

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Worked as a police officer/detective for 26 years.

Graduate of the University of Maryland.B.S. in Law Enforcement.Attended numerous schools and training courses involving investigations, interviewing, interrogations, crime detection, domestic violence, and others. Recognized in court as an expert witness.

Received numerous awards during my police career for expert investigations. Handled the most sensitive and confidential investigations. In 1999 I won an award for my work with high school students while working in my new career in a large suburban high school.

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