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Thanks for anwsering my question about the Icon, it was a great help. My next question is qabout the validity of a friend's baptism. He is now looking to enter the Catholic church, before, he was a Non denominational with some rather bizzare beliefs. He used to reject the resurection of the dead, he believed That the  Trinity was just three guys who worked together,(at one point he believed that the holy ghost was a woman.)and some other odd things. During this time he would Baptise himself on numerous occasions using the Trinitarian formula. His Mother would perform these Baptisms on him herself, (she held the same Trinitarian views as he did and still does.) Once a friend of his who was Catholic took part in these rites and baptised him, but it was not the same thing as a Catholic baptism. He explained to his friend, (Who has down syndrome), that it was only and act of penence thar he was performing, he was not making him Catholic. And before hand, he performed the rite on him. My personal opinion is that his baptisms are all invalid because of his Trinitarian heresy,(the Mormon baptisms are rejected for the same reason.) and due to lack of intent, his baptism by a Catholic friend is also invalid. I am asking you as a Priest, do you think that my friend is baptised or not? If you had to say yes or no, what would you say?

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Hi, Martin:
Thanks for the question.
I would agree with you that these "baptisms" are invalid.  I like your analogy with Mormonism and their odd Trinitarian ideas; but I think that your friend's baptisms are clearly not valid overwhelmingly because of "lack of intent."  It sounds more like your friend has an idea about Baptism that would correspond more to something like the practice of sprinkling holy water, a sacramental, but not THE SACRAMENT of Baptism.
If I had to say yes or no, I would say NO.  Your friend is not truly baptized in accord with the Sacrament of Baptism instituted by Jesus Christ and ministered by the Church or by one who "intends to do what the Church does by baptizing."

Fr. Timothy Johnson

P.S. It seems as though you must have done quite a bit of research about Mormonism.  I don't know if it is strictly their "Trinitarian" heresy itself that is the problem, but their understanding of the fundamental nature of God.  They say God the Father has a body of flesh and bone, and that Jesus Christ is his literal son, begotten in the flesh by sexual copulation between God the Father and Mary.  A Trinitarian heresey that had some error concerning the nature of the relationship bewteen and among the Persons of the Holy Trinity (e.g. the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father ONLY, and NOT the Son; as opposed to proceeding from the Father and the Son, or through the Son), or the nature of the hypostatic union of the Word with human flesh might not necessarily invalidate a Baptism (e.g. Nestorians or Monophysites).

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A Traditional Catholic Priest, validly and licitly ordained, incardinated legally and canonically in the Diocese of Fargo, and in good-standing with my Local Ordinary (Bishop) on active assignment at a rural Tri-Parish. I can provide honest and balanced answers to questions on topics pertaining to Traditional Roman Catholicism of the Latin Church (Councils of Trent and Vatican II)and a lot about the Eastern Catholic Churches, including the Sacred Liturgy, Sacred Scripture, Church History, the use of the Latin language, the tradition of Sacred Music, and current events in the Catholic Church from a traditional, historical and balanced perspective.

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I have been ordained a Roman Catholic Priest since June 2001.

Organizations
Knights of Columbus; Church Music Association of America (CMAA)

Education/Credentials
Ordained Priest, 02 JUN 2001; Ordained Deacon, 27 JAN 2001; MA - Dogmatic/Systematic Theology; MDiv - Professional Degree from Seminary; 2-Years formation with Canons Regular of Premontre including studies and experience in Sacred Liturgy, Chant, Latin, Sacraments, Spirituality. BA - Scholastic/Thomistic Philosophy; BA - Liberal Arts; AA - General Studies.

Past/Present Clients
I serve 3-small, rural Parish Communities in Easter North Dakota
I converted to the Roman Catholic Church in 1981, at the age of 15. Over the years I have done work as an organist, cantor, and choir director for the Latin Rite (English & Latin) Mass (Liturgy of the Eucharist), and even for the Hours of the Divine Office. I have worked as a cantor for a Melkite Byzantine Catholic Church. Presently my pastoral and administrative duties as a Catholic Priest do not allow me as much time as I used to have to devote to Sacred Music; but for my weekend Masses and Solemnities within my Tri-Parish, I offer High Sung Mass in English. Weekday Mass is typically Low Mass (recited Mass) in English, though on occasion I will offer the "Tridentine Mass" in Latin, which I usually offer on my "Day Off", as well. And now, in light of the "Motu Proprio" by his Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI placing the extraordinary usage of the Roman Rite back into the mainstream of the Catholic Church, I have been offering a regularly scheduled SUN, 2:00 PM Tridentine Latin Mass with a community of the faithful that has a stable existence.

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