Catholics/B. Joannes Neumann


My wife was recently given two necklaces, one is (I think) a second class relic; a round pendant with the words "EX INDUMENTIS", a round piece of glass with a small piece of woven cloth behind it. On the back it says B. Joannes Neumann after this name is the initials CDF just under an image of the saint. The chain says "ITALY" and .925 on the clasp.  The second chain has nothing other than the .925 and a "V" on the clasp however, at the clasp is third chain with nothing at the end. All of the chains a three strands woven the one with the pendant is a smaller diameter woven strand. Do you think this is a genuine relic?

I would have no way to know how to authenticate a relic.  

However from what you have said it does sound genuine.  Saint John Neumann was the bishop of Philadelphia in the 1850's.  I have no reason to believe the relic you have is fake.  It is very possible--if not very probably the relic you have is genuine. There would be no value in faking a relic.  It isn't like they are worth money. They are certainly important in terms of prayer and as reminders of the holy--but they have no secular value.

Saint John Neumann also has a connection to Baltimore since the Redemptorist order in which he was a part staffs a Church in Baltimore that Saint John Neumann lived when he was made bishop of Philadelphia.  I visited that Church once but I forget the name of it.

Now--if you said you had a genuine relic of the true Cross--I would be suspicious. From all the people claiming to have a relic of the true cross--if you combined those relics you would have enough wood to build Noah's Ark four times over.  


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Father Dave Bechtel


I am a Catholic priest in good standing and in active ministry in the Diocese of Scranton PA. I can answer most any question about the Catholic Faith, however my area of specialization is Systematic Theology. Systematic Theology is a branch of theology that focuses on the fundamental tenants of the Faith and the Dogmas of the Faith. I have specialization on the Reformation and Catholic vs. Protestant theology/issues and answering Protestant challenges to the Faith.


I was ordained in June of 2008. Since that time the thrust of my ministry has been specialized. In my first assignment I was an assistant pastor. A year later I was sent to work in education. I spent six (6) years in education and have now assumed my first pastorate. While education was the thrust of my ministry, nevertheless I continued to have a hand in parish ministry, hospital chaplaincy and prison chaplaincy. Now that I am out of education I will obviously be focusing more on parish work than specialized ministry. I have two years of formal Clinical Pastoral Education and prior to ordination I successfully pursued Board Certification for health care ministry through the NACC. My certification needs to be renewed and I plan to seek dual certification in health care ministry (NACC and APC) when I renew my certification. I have a breadth of experience working with Protestant ministers and collaborating with them to achieve the goals of hospital pastoral care and chaplaincy. These ministers run the spectrum from the liberal to the conservative.

Bachelors of Science-- University of Scranton PA Masters of Arts Theology--- Saint Mary's Seminary and University Baltimore MD Masters of Divinity--- Saint Charles Borremeo Seminary Philadelphia PA Board Certified Chaplain (up for renewal)

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