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QUESTION: Dear Dhananjay,

In Brahma Sutra, Chapter 4 - section 2 (Ref : http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/bs_0/Brahma.Sutra.4.2.html ), there are discussions about the death of ordinary men, liberation of knower of Saguna Brahman and the knower of Nirguna Brahman.

Knower of the Saguna Brahman liberates through the Sushumna Nadi, and for the ordinary (ignorant) men, the exit happens through other than Sushumna Nadi. The body is left back in both these cases.

Adhikaranas 6 to 8 explain about the knower of Nirguna Brahman.
Could you please comment on the following queries:

1) What will happen to the body of the knower of Nirguna Brahman, and how the exit happens for the same?

2) What is the difference between the liberation of the knower of Saguna Brahman and the knower of Nirguna Brahman?

regards,
RK.

ANSWER: 1. The term 'Knower' of Nirguna Brahman (formless Almighty, without attributes) in the Brahmasutra-s denotes a Jivanmukta, who has attained full blown self-realization. Therefore, he is at 'Turiyateeta' (always effortlessly in the state of pure consciousness or Sahaja-sthiti) and hence does not entertain the perception of the Loka-s (worlds/planes which concern the mind) or those of a Lord limited to shape, form and structure.

At the time of final departure, through 'Videhamukti' (complete, irreversible liberation), the apparent Jiva merges into Supreme consciousness seamlessly, as water contained in a bottle, lying on the ocean floor,  would merge into the ocean, if the bottle were to be broken. Is there any distinction between the water that was in the bottle and the sea water after the merger? Can the two be separately distinguished? Such is the merger into the Supreme, at exit.

What happens to the physical/astral/causal bodies is not of any value, for these are non-entities in terms of the absolute and therefore, eventually go back to their source, namely Prakriti.

2. The knower of 'Saguna Brahman' (Almighty worshiped through form, with attributes) has a perception of the Loka-s (worlds/planes which concern the mind) or those of a Lord limited/depicted by shape, form and structure. Therefore, there must be a mind to perceive the same. The presence of the mind infers the presence of an Ego, however small it may be. Hence, such a Saguna Sadhaka goes to an higher astral plane (concerning the mind) after releasing himself from the body through the 'Sushumna Nadi', via the 'Brahmarandhra' (at the crown of the head), where he performs further Sadhana in the 'Sukshma Sharira' (astral body) and finally attains Videhamukti into the Nirguna Brahman, who stretches into infinity.

Such advanced Saguna Sadhaka-s are also sometimes given other portfolio's by the Lord, as regards 'Lokasangrham' (welfare of mankind), which they carry out till their final exit (such as say guiding certain other Jiva-s in the path of the self).

ॐ तत् सत्
(That Supreme being is the absolute truth)


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QUESTION: Thanks for the reply.

Could you please tell us whether the mode of liberation of the knower of Nirguna Brahman and in one of the previous post in which you discussed about the ability of yogi to dematerialize the body are related somehow?

In short, is it the case that the knower of Nirguna Brahman just disappears by de-materializing the body and the atman gets merged with the parabrahman, in contrast to the knower of Saguna Brahman where the body is left behind?

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1. Materializing or de-materializing  of the body has no connection with attainment of 'Gnyana' (Enlightenment). It is a Siddhi concerning the body & mind (which are both unreal) and hence has no value in terms of the absolute.

2. The final release may involve de-materialization of the body (if it is so destined), or it may not. It is not that the bodies of all knowers of Nirguna Brahman de-materialize. The Sutra only refers to the complete merger of the Atman into the absolute, then and there, which is the point to be noted. What happens to the body is not of importance, for the body is an illusion and unreal, in terms of the truth.

ॐ तत् सत्
(That Supreme being is the absolute truth)  

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