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Bart,

I know nothing about fireplaces so please forgive me if I provide too much or too little information.

We have a guest room with a Heat-n-Glo model #RHW41 woodburning fireplace with an exterior chase. The room is unusable in the wintertime due to the extreme cold emanating from the fireplace, chase and hearth. (Mountain home in Colorado where the winter daytime high may be only 10 deg F) We have cut a hole in the drywall above the mantle in order to see inside the chase and in the side of the hearth. This is what we know:

*The chase is insulated on the three exterior sides but not the interior wall that it shares with the bedroom. R value is unknown.

*The firestop is 4' above the firebox with a false ceiling. (This places the false ceiling at the ceiling height of the bedroom. We cannot determine if there is insulation above this or not.) This is a single story home without attic access to the space above this room.

*There appears to be NO outside combustion air kit. We cannot find evidence of it in the interior of the chase nor outside of the home.

*The bottom of the fireplace is positioned 18 1/2" above the floor.

*There is a hearth extension that extends into the room 2' and is 5' wide and 18 1/2" high (from the floor). Thus creating a "box" hearth in the room.

*There is no insulation below the firebox.

*There is no insulation in the hearth "box"

It seems that adding insulation to the interior wall and hearth would help but is there more that we should do or can do? Should we add an outside air kit? Again, this room has to be sealed off from the rest of the house due to the extreme cold that enters through this area. We need a solution and the others that we have asked have not been able to provide one. Can you help?

Thank you,

Shannon


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Hi Shannon,

You can insulate the chase and the bottom of the hearth extension.  You shouldn't have to insulate the interior wall that it shares with the bedroom as insulating the chase should effective insulate the building envelope.

Depending your locale, an outside air kit might not be required, but it's always advisable to have one.

There will be a handle that closes the outside air kit when not in use.  If there is one installed, you should see a 4" round, typically silver, flexible tube going to the outside.

You can't insulate inside the cabinet of the fireplace on the top or the bottom.

Also, remember to close the damper if it's not in use.  That should help.

I recommend you contact a local CSIA Certified Chimney Sweep to do some on-site diagnosis of your problem.

You can find a CSIA Certified Chimney Sweep at www.csia.org.

Thanks for using AllExperts.Com and good luck with your project.

Sincerely,
A. Bart Ogden, President
Home Safe Hearth & Chimney, Inc.
Wichita, KS
Voice: 316-265-9828
Fax: 316-265-9890
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I can answer questions related to chimney and fireplace cleaning, construction and repair as well as questions related to the performance of chimneys and fireplaces. I can also answer questions related to clothes dryer vent cleaning and repair. Additionally, I can field questions related to masonry repair.

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Experience in the area:
28 years experience in the chimney service/installation/repair field
President, Home Safe Hearth & Chimney, Inc. Wichita, Kansas

Professional Organizations:
Member, National Chimney Sweep Guild (NCSG)
Member, Hearth, Patio & Barbecue Association (HPBA)
Member, Kansas Guild of Professional Chimney Sweeps (KGPCS)
Member, Midwest Chimney Safety Council (MCSC)
Member, Kansas Association of Real Estate Inspectors (KAREI)
Past At-Large Director of the National Chimney Sweep Guild
Past At-Large Director of the Chimney Safety Institute of America
Past Secretary, National Chimney Sweep Guild
Past Secretary, Chimney Safety Institute of America
Member, National Chimney Sweep Guild Technical Advisory Council
Member, Chimney Safety Institute of America Certification Committee
Past Chairman, CSIA Chimney Safety Education Brochures Committee
Past Chairman, NCSG Nomination Committee

Publications:
SWEEPING Magazine, The Journal of Chimney & Venting Technoloty, A Publication of the National Chimney Sweep Guild
SNEWS, The Chimney Sweep News
THE KANSAS SWEEP, The Voice of the KS Guild of Professional Chimney Sweeps

Education/Credentials:
BA, Wichita State University
C.S.I.A. Certified Chimney Sweep
C.S.I.A. Certified Dryer Exhaust Technician
N.F.I. Woodburning Specialist
N.F.I. Gas Specialist
Chimney Diagnosis & Documentation Seminar
Ahren's Masonry Restoration School Graduate
Advanced Gas Certification
Master Gas Certification
Licensed Mechanical Contractor
Pellet Appliance Specialist
Venting Design Specialist
Dale Carnegie Course Graduate

Awards and Honors:
Superior Dealer Award, Ventinox Chimney Lining Systems

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