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QUESTION: My husband and I built a family room onto our home.  The existing chimney is in this room.  We new we couldn't convert to a double open fireplace without possibly causing problems to the fireplace upstares which has it's own flu.  We busted out a clearing of 11.2" deep, as far as we could go to other fireplace, and installed a ventless gas log fireplace.  We are not satisfied with this as the logs caused a black residue on everything.  Is it possible to open up an area at the top of the gas log fireplace through to the top of the wood burning fireplace and either vent with proper piping through the existing flu?  Or could this opening alone work if glass doors were installed in existing wood burning fireplace to allow for proper drafting?  Then is it possible to have a fire burning in both fireplaces at the same time?  The two fireplaces are not center to each other as we centered the new addition for looks.

ANSWER: Teresa,

I'm concerned with the modification of the existing fireplace as you have disturbed it. You are correct in that you cannot open up the back side for drafting reasons. Additional, even the clearing you "busted out" may have a negative effect on the support that the structure has in holding the weigh of the entire structure. I would recommend having an NFPA-211, level II inspection performed before doing anything else to the system. You can "Google" fireplace inspections and find a local professional to perform this valuable;e service. Be sure to ask if the inspection will be an NFPA-211, level II inspection. Not all inspectors perform this service. Good luck.

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QUESTION: Thank you for your quick reply and for the information. We had contacted the original person who installed the fireplace before doing anything.  He suggested we support the new opening with a 1/2" thick brick lentel with a true arch opening under the outside brick.  The depth is only 9 1/2".  Do you think we may still have a problem in the future?

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Teresa,

Anytime you remove masonry material from a structure that supports that kind of weight, that weight is redistributed to other areas. Even if you installed a framming or arch or anything for that mater, it will only be a cold joint that is cosmetic and doesn't actually support the weight. I would still recommend the level II inspection. Good luck.

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Inspection of Masonry, Pre-cast Tilt-up, and Factory Built Fireplaces as well as Free Standing & Insert, Gas, and Wood Appliances. We also provide Hearth Fire Loss Investigations, Litigation Support, Consulting Services, Flue Sweeping, Installation and Repair. Additionally, I’ve been a chimney sweep for 23 years, service and install hearth appliances as well as being recognized by the Superior Court of California as an expert witness.

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Brooks Chimney Sweeping Since 1989 Ojai, CA Owner / President www.brooks-hearth.com

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NCSG, MEMBER,(National Chimney Sweep Guild), Member since 1990, Board of Directors representing Region 6, (CA, NV, AZ, UT, OR, WA, ID, WY, MT, AK and HI,) 2004-2011, ethics committee chair, 2004-2005, executive committee member, Vice President, 2006-2008, President, 2008-2011. CSIA, BOD (Chimney Safety Institute of America,) Board of Directors, ethics committee chair, 2004-2005, executive committee member, Secretary, 2005-2006, Vice President, 2006-2008, President, 2008-2011. HPBA, MEMBER, (Hearth, Patio, & BBQ Association,) since 2002. NFPA Member, (National Fire Protection Association) Since 2009. Technical Committee member for the 211 Standard.

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California State Licensed Contractor, C61-D34, #750710. http://www2.cslb.ca.gov C.S.I.A., (Chimney Safety Institute of America,) Certified Chimney Sweep, #2580. Held since 1990 re-certified in ‘93, ‘96, ‘99, ‘02, ‘05, '08,'11. http://www.csia.org F.I.R.E. (Fireplace Investigation, Research & Education Service,) Certified Inspector, #FP-006. Held since 2000, re-certified in ’03, ‘06. http://www.f-i-r-e-service.com Fireplace Investigation, Research & Education Service,) Advance Expert Consulting & Witness, certificate, ’05 N.F.I. (National Fireplace Institute,) Certified Gas & Wood-Burning Specialist, #133851. Held since 2002, re-certified in '05,‘08. http://nficertified.org

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