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I read on the net the following and need to know if it is true. Especially the last portion.
As you will see in the way these verses are worded, they will specifically tell us that no one can come to Jesus to receive His gift of eternal salvation unless God the Father first starts to draw that person to Him. And then it says that no one can say that Jesus is Lord unless it is done "by" the Holy Spirit.
That no one can say Jesus is Lord? Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. regards, Mr. Stroud
What is the reference? Is it from scripture? I'm not familiar with it.
And, I'm not Mr. Stroud - didyou send the question to the wrong person?
blessings,
carl
Tyler - I found the verse in question, and I suppose you could interpret it the way you said:
1 Corinthians 12:1 And now, dear brothers and sisters, I will write about the special abilities the Holy Spirit gives to each of us, for I must correct your misunderstandings about them.
2 You know that when you were still pagans you were led astray and swept along in worshiping speechless idols.
3 So I want you to know how to discern what is truly from God: No one speaking by the Spirit of God can curse Jesus, and no one is able to say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.
What I think it is saying is that a non-believer would not be able to say Jesus is Lord, or at least not believe it, unless they've been touched by the Holy Spirit. And that adds another dimension to the question, as to whether the touch of the Holy Spirit is what is meant by "born again". But what you said, "no one can come to Jesus to receive His gift of eternal salvation unless God the Father first starts to draw that person to Him. " is obviously true, because He calls ALL of us closer to Him, right? Isn't that why God sent Jesus? To evangelize the whole world and bring all the sinners back to God? That's what I believe.
blessings,
carl
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| Comment | Hello Carl, Yes it is from the Bible...Basically stating you cannot say "Jesus is Lord" unless you have the conviction, or the holy Ghost in you. Not sure of the chapter and verse though. Thank-you Here is a passage that was helpful to me.1 Co 1:26-31 26 Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things — and the things that are not — to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast before him. 30 It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God — that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31 Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord." NIV | ||
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Carl Fuglein
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I can answer questions from teens & young adults concerning their faith walk and on social issues which affect their lives. I can answer questions on sex, homosexuality, and drugs and anything else that might be troubling you. After 30 years in youth ministry, nothing shocks me, and I promise to give straight answers to any and all questions. I can also answer questions from youth workers on problems they`re having with programming or with their groups.
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I have been involved in youth and young adult ministries as a volunteer for over 30 years. I am currently a volunteer youth minister in a suburban UM church - I have a small group of 7th and 8th graders.
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United Methodist Church, Chrysalis, Walk to Emmaus, Cursillo
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Several training seminars, 8 years at National Youth Workers Convention, 1 year at Princeton Forum on Youth Ministry
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Certified lay speaker for UM Church
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