AboutCandy Expertise I was diagnosed (finally) with CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immune Disfunction Syndrome) in 1993. I am currently in "remission" (for whatever that`s worth). I have experienced the full range of emotions that go along with this disease and will be glad to "listen" to anyone who needs to vent their fears, confusion, frustrations, anger...(it helps). I can share what worked for me and what others have shared that worked for them. I can steer you in directions of help (ie: Social Security Disability claims, natural remedies, support groups, etc.). You are not alone.
Experience Since my diagnosis, I have done a lot of research on the illness. I started the first support group in my area and organized "training" for physicians, nurses and care givers who believed in this disease and wanted to treat their patients that suffered . (It helped that I had been a Paramedic for 10 years before getting sick and had some medical knowledge.)
Organizations National CFIDS Association, American Association of Emergency Medical Technicians and Paramedics
Education/Credentials Emergency Medical Technician II, Emergency Intensive Care Paramedic
Question Hi, my name is Genna and I was just browsing allexperts and I saw this Chronic Fatigue Syndrome page. I was actually browsing because I was trying to find the appropriate category to ask a question about my leg pain and that's when I some CFS questions and saw that I have a lot in common with other people asking questions. I am 20 years old and a male. I have had strange leg pains for about 4 years now. They started after I had begun to run daily. I thought it was an overuse issue and stopped running for a time. When I started again the same problem came back. I have now pretty much stopped running because I just can't. I even went to many specialists and got many scans and they told me nothing is wrong and that I should just stretch more. I don't have a car so I bike everywhere. Now I can do that either because my legs feel ripped apart after even a few hundred feet. And not riding my bike for months makes no difference, they still hurt almost right away. Also, my wrists hurt quickly if I use the computer or mouse for a few hours and where my foot and legs meet hurts a lot.
I was reading that some of the symptoms for CFS are also unrefreshing sleep and impaired memory or concentration. and I have these symptoms too. More and more, and it's becoming a concern for me, I can't remember things. I have actually been diagnosed with depression, generalized anxiety, and social anxiety years prior and reading about CFS, I find that these conditions are comorbid. And I have just had a sense of being tired all the time, for years upon years, and I don't know why. I don't want to do anything and get stressed out easily. I thought this was the depression and anxiety but this is making me think again.
One last thing I want to mention, I had a really strong stomach virus for just two days and some months after that (it might have even been half a year) is when I began having leg pain from what I thought was overuse injuries. Do you think this could be CFS or maybe even Fibromyalgia? Thank you.
Answer While debilitating fatigue is the hallmark of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFIDS), a feeling of weariness is not, by itself, a sure sign of this illness. People with CFIDS have a combination of symptoms, including swollen glands, muscle pain, and confusion. The symptoms may come and go, vary in intensity from mild to incapacitating, and last for months or years. Exercise often makes CFIDS worse.
People with CFIDS describe it as feeling like a terrible case of flu that never gets better. A typical victim, previously well and active, suddenly comes down with a flu-like condition. Then, instead of getting better, she develops a chronic illness that includes a severe, prolonged fatigue.
CFIDS is not well understood: Although it does not appear to be new, it was only officially described by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in 1988. Research into its causes and treatments is just beginning and no clear answers have emerged. The condition goes by several names: You may hear it called chronic fatigue immune dysfunction syndrome (CFIDS), chronic Epstein-Barr, or myalgic encephalomyelitis. Most disturbingly, you may still find doctors who do not believe the syndrome exists, or doctors who believe CFIDS patients are actually suffering from depression, or even faking it.
It is not even certain how many people have the illness, although new studies put the estimate at more than 500,000 Americans. Most people diagnosed with CFIDS are young adult women, but the condition occurs in people of all ages and races and of both sexes. CFIDS is not contagious.
Causes of CFIDS
Current thinking is that CFIDS probably has more than one cause; research generally falls into three areas: the nervous system, immune dysfunction or a viral cause. Experts pursuing the viral theory say it is not clear whether there are several viruses that each happen to cause the same syndrome, or whether the disease results from a combination of viruses working together. Some research shows that people with CFIDS may have an abnormal response to viruses in general. Some viruses, such as Epstein-Barr and human herpes virus 6, have been considered as possible causes, but there is no conclusive evidence for any single virus.
Recent research into the immune dysfunction theory has found that cytokines, an immune system component normally active in fighting infections, may be involved in CFIDS.
Two other areas under investigation are a link between CFIDS and allergies and the relationship of CFIDS to inflammation of the central nervous system.
Studies are now finding that some people who fit the strict criteria for chronic fatigue syndrome may also have a condition known as neurally mediated hypotension (NMH). Such people experience a dramatic drop in blood pressure after as little as 10 minutes on their feet, and suffer many of the symptoms of chronic fatigue. Treatment for NMH has yielded an improvement in CFIDS symptoms in at least one study. Researchers think that a virus or infection may cause the injury to the central nervous system that's responsible for this disorder—which may explain why so many patients report a viral infection before developing CFIDS.
Diagnosing CFIDS
Since there is no one conclusive lab test for CFIDS, diagnosing the syndrome means ruling out all the things it isn't —a very difficult task. For example, CFIDS shares symptoms with medical disorders such as lupus, multiple sclerosis, and Lyme disease, as well as with depression, so these conditions must all be ruled out before CFIDS can be seriously considered.
To be diagnosed with CFIDS, a patient must, for at least six months, meet two major criteria, have four or more of a group of symptoms commonly associated with the disease and test positive for the Epstain Barr Virus.
The two major criteria are:
* New onset of persistent fatigue that reduces activity 50 percent, and does not get better with bed rest
* Fatigue not explained by other medical or psychiatric illness
*Test positive for the Epstein Barr Virus
Potential symptoms include:
* Sore throat
* Painful lymph nodes
* General muscle pain
* Prolonged fatigue after physical activity
* Generalized headaches
* Pain that moves from one joint to another without swelling or redness
* Forgetfulness, excessive irritability, confusion, or inability to concentrate
* Sleep disturbance
Treatments for CFIDS
There is no proven cure for CFIDS. Treatments in current use only help relieve symptoms. Most doctors recommend improving general health and physical condition. If you have CFIDS, you should eat a balanced diet, get adequate rest, and exercise as much as your condition allows—walking is most frequently recommended.
You must also learn to set limits and pace yourself, since stress can often make the symptoms worse. For many people, lifestyle changes may be necessary. For example, you may need to take a job closer to home, or switch to a less stressful occupation. Many people with CFIDS cannot work full time while they are ill.
Pain management programs may help with severe muscle pain or headache, while sleep disorders can often be treated at a specialized sleep disorder center; relaxation training may help reduce stress; some alternative therapies, such as acupuncture, aquatic therapy, chiropractic, massage, and yoga, have helped some patients. Support groups and counseling may also be helpful, while certain psychotherapies, such as cognitive behavior therapy, have helped some patients cope.
Drug Treatment for CFIDS has met with mixed results. There are reports of success in treating symptoms of CFIDS with a number of products, including antiviral drugs, antidepressants, anti allergy treatments, blood pressure medications, and medications that boost the immune system. But few drugs for CFIDS have gone through formal clinical testing, and none have shown clear benefits. Recent tests of antiviral agents such as acyclovir (Zovirax), and immunoglobulin (Gamimune, Gammagard, others) have been inconclusive, working no better than dummy pills in some tests.
Some doctors use pain relievers, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, the newer prescription medications called COX-2 inhibitors (Bextra, Celebrex), and injections of gamma globulin (Gammar), vitamin B12 and magnesium for relief of general symptoms.
Support Groups
Because chronic fatigue syndrome is not well understood, you may want to be in touch with the national organizations that offer the latest information on the illness. There are also patient organizations that can help you find a support group. Many people with CFIDS find these groups helpful in dealing with the effects of the disease on their lives. For information, check the Directory of Support Groups.
Outlook
The good news is that CFIDS does not seem to get worse over time. Often the first episode is the worst, with relapses becoming fewer and milder over time. Typically, symptoms come and go, and worsening symptoms are rare. Some physicians have observed that patients whose symptoms began abruptly following a severe viral illness tend to recover completely after six months to a year, while patients whose problems developed slowly are likely to experience symptoms for a longer period of time.
However long it takes, people with CFIDS generally do tend to improve, even if they do not recover completely. Most people with CFIDS make significant changes in their lifestyles while they have the disease, and learn to accept new limits. Some people recover spontaneously in a few weeks or months.
So if you do test positive for the Epstein Barr Virus I am going to give you a list of Natural Remedies that have helped me.
Vitamins and Minerals Maximum Daily Dose
Malic acid/Magnesium hydroxide 1,800-6,000 mg (take in 6 small doses)
Beta carotene (pro vitamin A) 10,000 I.U.
Vitamin B complex
B1 (thiamine) 50 mg
B2 (riboflavin) 75 mg
B3 (niacin amide) 200 mg
B5 (pantothenic acid) 200 mg
B6 (pyridoxine) 75 mg
B12 (cyanocobalamin) 100 mcg
Folic acid 400 mcg
Biotin 400 mcg
Choline 700 mg
Inositol 500 mg
PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid) 50 mg
Vitamin C 2000 mg
Vitamin D 200 I.U.
Vitamin E 400 I.U.
Calcium aspartate 1200 mg
Magnesium aspartate 600 mg
Potassium aspartate 200 mg
Iron 18 mg
Chromium 150 mcg
Manganese 20 mg
Selenium 50 mcg
Zinc 15 mg
Copper 2 mg
Iodine 150 mcg
Dosage: Take one-quarter to full amount of the above nutrients on a daily basis. Begin this formula with the lowest dose of each nutrient and increase the dose slowly and gradually to the recommended maximum depending on how you are feeling.
Tinctures Maximum Daily Dose
Ginkgo biloba 2 droppers full
Ginger root 2 droppers full
Burdock root 2 droppers full
Dandelion root 2 droppers full
Licorice root 1/2 dropper full
Dosage: Take one-quarter to full amount of the above nutrients on a daily basis. Begin this formula with the lowest dose of each nutrient and increase the dose slowly and gradually to the recommended maximum depending on how you are feeling.
Food Sources of Vitamin A
Vegetables
Carrots
Carrot juice
Collard greens
Dandelion greens
Green onion
Kale
Parsley
Spinach
Sweet potatoes
Turnip greens
Winter squash
Fruit
Apricots
Avocado
Cantaloupe
Mangoes
Papaya
Peaches
Persimmons
Meat, Poultry, Seafood
Crab
Halibut
Liver-all types
Mackerel
Salmon
Swordfish
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Food Sources of Vitamin B Complex (including folic acid)
Vegetables and Legumes
Alfalfa
Artichokes
Asparagus
Beets
Broccoli
Brussels sprouts
Cabbage
Cauliflower
Corn
Garbanzo beans
Green beans
Green peas
Kale
Leeks
Lentils
Lima beans
Onions
Pinto beans
Romaine lettuce
Soybeans
Meat, Poultry, Seafood
Egg yolks *
Liver *
Grains
Barley
Bran
Brown rice
Corn
Millet
Rice bran
Wheat
Wheat germ
Sweeteners
Black-strap molasses
* Eggs and meat should be from organic range-fed stock fed on pesticides free food.
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Food Sources of Vitamin B6
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Food Sources of Zinc
Grains
Barley
Brown rice
Buckwheat
Corn
Cornmeal
Millet
Oatmeal
Rice bran
Rye bread
Wheat bran
Wheat germ
Wheat berries
Whole wheat bread
Whole wheat flour
Vegetables and Legumes
Black-eyed peas
Cabbage
Carrots
Garbanzo beans
Green peas
Lentils
Lettuce
Lima beans
Onions
Soy flour
Soy meal
Soy protein
Fruits
Apples
Peaches
Meat, Poultry, Seafood
Chicken
Oysters
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Food Sources of Calcium
Vegetables and Legumes
Artichoke
Black beans
Black-eyed peas
Beet greens
Broccoli
Brussels sprouts
Cabbage
Collards
Eggplant
Garbanzo beans
Green beans
Green onions
Kale
Kidney beans
Leeks
Lentils
Parsley
Parsnips
Pinto beans
Rutabaga
Soybeans
Spinach
Turnips
Watercress
Meat, Poultry, Seafood
Abalone
Beef
Bluefish
Carp
Crab
Haddock
Lamb
Lobster
Oysters
Perch
Salmon
Shrimp
Venison
Fruits
Blackberries
Black currants
Boysenberries
Oranges
Pineapple juice
Prunes
Raisins
Rhubarb
Tangerine juice
Grains
Bran
Brown rice
Bulgar wheat
Millet
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Food Sources of Magnesium
Vegetables and Legumes
Artichokes
Black-eyed peas
Carrot juice
Corn
Green peas
Leeks
Lima beans
Okra
Parsnips
Potatoes
Soybean sprouts
Spinach
Squash
Yams
Grains
Brown rice
Millet
Wild rice
Nuts and Seeds
Almonds
Brazil nuts
Hazelnuts
Peanuts
Pistachios
Pumpkin seeds
Sesame seeds
Walnuts
Fruits
Avocado
Bananas
Grapefruit juice
Papayas
Pineapple juice
Prunes
Raisins
If you do test positive for the Epstein Barr Virus and it is determined that you do have CFIDS...there is one very important thing to remember. You are not alone. There are many CFIDS sufferers. Find a support group to get involved with. Being able to talk about what you're going through with others who are going through the same thing definitely helps.
The following are web sites to organizations that can provide you with more information.
