Cigars/Cuban Cigar Box Codes
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Dear Mr. Lee
Just bought a box of Hoyo Epicure #2 - Cabinet Box of 25. Box Code on the bottom of the box is:
- UPM (on top)
- SEP 08 (underneath)
Cigars have a double band. Valid (authentic)box?
You input and advice are invaluable. You were the ONLY source (Googled) that spoke to Hoyo adding a secondary band which led me to you for input.
Thank you.
Komodata
Komodata,
In 2008, Hoyo de Monterrey did add a second band to their Epicure No. 2 so your box appears genuine. Your box was produced in September 2008 and at the La Corona factory. It's really not important to track a box with the factory box code now because Cuban box codes constantly change.
Here's some more information about the new box codes (from CubanCigarWebsite.com):
"Fourth & Current System (2003 on)
With this system of factory codes, all factories have an unique 3 capital letter code that can be changed monthly and yearly. With this system there are a substantial number of unique codes available, which means there need not be a duplicate code for many years.
Consequently identifying and tracking them is virtually impossible. Only those with access to the code generator program would know codes in advance.
Occasionally a code may be reported but even if correct, it is of limited use as it may only be valid for short time.
Given the much improved quality control from 2005/6 on, the difference in factory output is reduced, making it less important to "chase factories". In addition, the rationalisation, improvement, and replacement of factories means that most brands are now being made in a single factory."
Hopes this answers your question. If you have any more questions, please feel free to just ask and I will be happy to help.
Regards,
James
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| Comment | Mr. Lee is now the ONLY person I will seek input and advice from on "critical" Cigar related matters. My local cigar purveyor is very knowledgeable on cigars in terms of buying, availability, recommedations on non-cuban cigars and general cigar information. However, when it comes down to an important issue, Mr. Lee would appear to be one of the very few viable sources. The difference is he not only knows about cigars (and fortunately - Cubans), but he doesn't impart subjective "bloggy" opinions. When something involves substantive value as in spending $300.00+ for a box of cigars that you hope are legitimate, you want objective facts - NOT subjective "opinion". | ||
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James Yee
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My main area of expertise is Cuban cigars but I can also assist you with cigar etiquette, humidor maintenance and troubleshooting. Unsure of a certain cigar brand? Wondering what a certain cigar tastes like? Have any questions about Cuban cigars? Just let me know! I have smoked every brand of Cuban cigars and most reputable non-Cuban cigar brands on a regular basis so I know a fair bit about taste profiles, cigar etiquette and other fine nuances to cigar smoking. (NOTE: My main focus is on premium, hand-rolled cigars and not cheap, machine made, convenience store cigars.) IMPORTANT: PLEASE NOTE THAT I DO NOT PROVIDE CIGAR OR CIGAR-RELATED APPRAISALS. If you have a vintage cigar item and you want to know if it's worth something, please contact an antique dealer that specializes in "TOBACCIANA".
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I currently have 19 dedicated years of cigar smoking and counting. I have smoked every brand of Cuban cigars and most reputable non-Cuban cigar brands on a regular basis so I know a fair bit about taste profiles, cigar etiquette and other fine nuances to cigar smoking. For 5 years, I studied with Cuban torcedores (rollers), catadores (taste testers) and revisadores (inspectors) on every aspect involving the production of the Cuban cigar and I am currently writing a book that will help beginners understand everything they need to know about cigars and cigar smoking.
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Maple Leaf Gardens: Memories & Dreams 1931-1999 (1999; ISBN: 0920445616)
50 Things Every Guy Should Know How To Do (2006; ISBN: 0452286654)
The [London] Times (October 8, 2009)
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B.A. University of Toronto
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