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QUESTION: I have recently built a GF cabinet & fitted a Uros w/minster chime movement. The movement is several years old but has never been used until now, it has been correctly stored. Everything is spot on except the chimes appear to be A) very slow in operation & B) very soft in sound. The strike on the hour is at least 3 times as loud as the chimes and is what is acceptable in spacing ie: tolls the hours as per normal whilst the chime is slow. Looking forward to your reply, Regards Alf

ANSWER: Hi, Alf.  Evidently, as is with most stored movements, the lubricants have become gummy and are slowing the function of the chime train.  You have two concerns here, the first being the speed of the chimes.  I would clean the old lubricants from the movement and relubricate.  On the problem with the volume, I don't know if the strike is too loud or the chimes are too soft.  You can adjust the volume by moving the hammers closer or further from the chime rods at rest.  This is an adjustment in which you don't want the hammers so close at rest that they double strike or "thud", and so far away that the volume is too low.  I'm rather sure the strike hammers on the Urgos movement don't have an overall adjustment, as some of the older movements, but the can be adjusted individually by forming the hammer wires back a little until the sound is of less volume.  There is a further adjustment for the position of the hammers at rest which varies the amount of lift, but that is a more lengthy procedure, usually preformed by an experienced clockmaker.  The the above suggestions and let me know how it works out.

John Newman
THE VILLAGE CLOCKSMITH
Old Prattvillage
Prattville, Alabama


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QUESTION: Thanks for your reply John and I can fully understand that the lubricant may need cleaning, however I have never done this being an old woodworker. How do you suggest I go about this? What do I use to clean and what lubricant do I use? Somewhere in the recesses of my brain I feel I have heard that one should not lubricate the actual teeth of the gears only the shaft/axle, is this correct? I will readjust the hammers after cleaning, Thanks again Regards Alf

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Alf, in the clock business we use tested clock cleaning solutions and completely disassemble the clock to remove all the gunk and inspect the parts.  It is difficult to tell you how to do this if the clock has been stored for a while.  Since the clock is working, I would try cleaning the bushings with a Q-tip and alcohol.  This will soften the lubricant in the movement.  Then apply sparingly a little clock oil to each bushing and moving part.  This would apply to grease also.  The general rule is that you apply oil to the rotating parts and grease to the the sliding parts.  Never apply lubricant to any of the gear teeth, with the exception that you apply a little oil to the teeth of the escape wheel teeth with a small artist's brush.  If you will email me at my shop address below, I will be to reply with a labeled photo and instructions for lubricating.

John Newman
THE VILLAGE CLOCKSMITH
Old Prattvillage
Prattville, Alabama
klokdok@juno.com

(Due to the number of Allexperts questions and
the workload I have at my clock shop, I regret
that I cannot answer personal email questions on a timely basis
other than Allexperts follow ups.)

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As much as I would like to offer values of clocks, I am not a certified appraiser and will not venture into giving an unresearched guess. There is very little published information on what I consider to be the value of "modern production clocks". Considerations are what the clock originally sold for, the condition of the case and movement, and particularly the area in which you live, the demand and the economy. ALSO, WATCHES ARE NOT MY FIELD. However, I can advise the clock owner on proper maintenance of a clock to keep it running, small corrections and adjustments and how to move a clock without damaging it. I can also advise on obtaining parts for clocks. It helps if you can send any information on the clock movement which is usually found on the back plate of the movement. I have been a clockmaker for about 35 years and was plant engineer in the mid 90's and later operations and engineering consultant at Emperor Clock Company in Fairhope, Alabama. I now have my own clock shop.

Experience

One of my greatest accomplishments was traveling to China to assist a clock factory in building clocks to the standards which we required. With the proper specifications and quality control, some beautiful clock cases were built. The factory people from the wood carvers to the plant manager were very congenial, friendly and I left a lot of wonderful friends when I returned from my trips.

Organizations
Chamber of Commerce Small Business Committee

Publications
Horological Times, a publication of the American Watch and Clockmakers Instute. Collaberated column author, with Photos and ideas for clock movement conversion article.

Education/Credentials
Associate of Science Mechanical Engineering Technology Emperor Introductory Clock Repair (Eventually taught a portion of the class after becoming employee)

Awards and Honors
Small Business of the Quarter (Prattville, Alabama) Leadership Class of 2009 (Autauga County, Alabama)

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