Clocks, Watches/click springs


John,I have a Seth Thomas Mantle clock with a 113A movement.I had it cleaned ,It also needed new click springs.The shop owner said he had trouble finding the click springs,so he could not make the repair,he said I needed heavy duty click springs because of the heavy duty springs in this movement.Do you know were I can find the click springs I need? Thank You Marlein Wolak

Marlein, I have worked on quite a few ST 113 movements.  Just to be clear, did the shop owner mean click springs and not clicks?  The reason I ask is that the clicksprings are to hold the clicks reliably in the teeth of the ratchet wheel. Basically they have nothing to do with the strength of the mainsprings.  And are all springs failing?  As far as I know, the click springs can be found from clock suppliers like, Timesavers, Merritts, Black Forest Imports, R&M Imports, Mile High, etc.  Without having a clickspring in my hand to compare, I cannot be sure, but examples would be Timesavers part numbers 16691, 16694, etc.  Let me know if he meant clicksprings or clicks and if he has checked with the suppliers.  In the meantime I will check with my Internet Clocksmiths members if they can offer anything in addition to what I have indicated.

John Newman
Vintage Emperor Clock Consultant
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Prattville, Alabama  

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As I am not a certified appraiser I do not give values of clocks over the Internet. There is very little published information on what I consider to be the value of "modern production clocks". However, considerations are what the clock originally sold for, the condition of the case and movement, and particularly the area in which you live, the demand and the economy. ALSO, WATCHES ARE NOT MY FIELD. However, I can advise the clock owner on proper maintenance of a clock to keep it running, small corrections and adjustments and how to move a clock without damaging it. I can also advise on obtaining parts for clocks. As clock case model label numbers are difficult to relate to the movements, it is helpful if you can give me the information usually found on the movements themselves. Modern clock movements usually have the information on the back plate of the movement. I have been a clockmaker for about 40 years and was plant engineer in the mid 90's and later operations and engineering consultant at Emperor Clock Company in Fairhope, Alabama. I now have my own clock shop in Prattville, Alabama.


One of my greatest accomplishments was traveling to China to assist a clock factory in building clocks to the standards which we required at Emperor. With the proper specifications and quality control, some beautiful clock cases were built. The factory people from the wood carvers to the plant manager were very congenial, friendly and I left a lot of wonderful friends when I returned from my trips.

NAWCC (National Association of Watch and Clock Collectors) 30 years Prattville, Alabama Chamber of Commerce

Horological Times, a publication of the American Watch and Clockmakers Instute. Collaberated column author, with Photos and ideas for clock movement conversion article.

Associate of Science Mechanical Engineering Technology Emperor Introductory Clock Repair (Eventually taught a portion of the class after becoming employee)

Awards and Honors
Small Business of the Quarter (Prattville, Alabama) Leadership Class of 2009 (Autauga County, Alabama)

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