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Hi John,

I have an antique Haid clock with FHS 130-020 innards. The winding mechanism is blocked somehow, but if I turn the clock-hands by hand, the clock appears to function pretty cleanly, wheel bounces back and forth, chimes chime, etc. I've never fixed a clock so I have no idea if this is actually a good sign or meaningless.

I wanted to take the clock's mechanism out of the body and see what is blocking it from winding.

In the back, I can easily unscrew the screws that are holding the whole engine in place. But the clock hands are also attached through the clock face and prevent me from taking it out to inspect the winding mechanism (which is on the face). How can I remove the hands so that I can take the actual clock mechanism out and see what's blocking the winding?

Picture attached hopefully makes it a little clearer.


Hi, Najeeb.  The movement in your clock was made for Haid by Hermle.  The mainsprings (winding clockwise) could be wound up all the way, which means they can be wound no more.  This is what I think you to mean by "blocked".  When they are wound the provide the power for the three functions (time, chime and strike).  It sounds like the clock is not running, possibly due to old lubricant or worn parts.  These movements should be serviced every 7 to 10 years, and if yours has not, this could be the problem.

In answer to your question, the minute hand nut is removed and the minute hand is pulled off.  Notice the orientation of the hand.  It fits on a square shaft and only one of the 4 positions will be correct.  After the minute hand is removed, the hour hand is pulled straight off.  Again, if the clock has not been serviced, the hour hand could be a little difficult to remove.

I can't really advise you how to fix the problem you are describing.  We get a lot of clocks of this type in our shop that are not running.  To service them correctly, we let the mainsprings down, dismantle most of the parts, clean and check for any that are worn, repair or replace them and reassemble.  Then we lubricate and test run, making any necessary adjustments. I would not recommend that someone without clock repair experience do this.  It would be better to have an experienced clockmaker look at it.  However, if you would like to remove the movement, let me know when you are ready to put it back in the case and I will send you some instructions on synchronizing the hands.

John Newman
The Village Clocksmith
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Prattville, Alabama  

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One of my greatest accomplishments was traveling to China to assist a clock factory in building clocks to the standards which we required at Emperor. With the proper specifications and quality control, some beautiful clock cases were built. The factory people from the wood carvers to the plant manager were very congenial, friendly and I left a lot of wonderful friends when I returned from my trips.

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