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Do you know of a suitable replacement movement for a Viking Grandfather clock that has a Viking Series 111-133 movement.
My clock has ceased to run.  I've tried several methods but without adding weights to the chain, the pendulum motion doesn't cause the movement to "beat" (no tick/tock).
Is it worth having the movement repaired?  If not, what movement now available would you suggest I consider?

Larry, I cannot identify your movement with the number you have given me.  There is very little available information on cross-reference numbers on cases and movements, particularly from companies that are no longer in business.  Also clock manufacturers occasionally would change movements in the same model cases.  However, if you will send me the information found on the back plate of the movement, I can identify it.  Also if you can send a clear photo of the back of the movement showing the pendulum hanging, I might be able to instruct you on how to get it running.  My shop email address is below.

When you ask if the movement is worth repairing, the only answer to that is to have it looked at by an experienced clockmaker and get an estimate.  Then it's up to you to decide whether it is worth it or not.  Some clockmakers will say a clock is not worth repairing, but I always give an estimate and leave it up to the customer.  If the cost nears that of replacing the movement with one that is the same or doesn't require too much modification, I explain the advantages of a new movement.  Get me the above information and we'll go from there.

John Newman
Vintage Emperor Clock Consultant
Located in Old Prattvillage
Prattville, Alabama

Larry, I found the Viking Series 111 Installation and Operating Instructions Manual.  It shows drawings of the movement, but not photos.  I am sure it is the Hermle 451-050H 94cm.  That is the information you should find on the bottom right corner of the movement back plate.  If this is correct, you can obtain this movement in the price range of around $300.  I do have them, but you can Google any clock suppliers and check them out.  But first, as I had suggested, send me the information and maybe we can get yours going.

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As I am not a certified appraiser I do not give values of clocks over the Internet. There is very little published information on what I consider to be the value of "modern production clocks". However, considerations are what the clock originally sold for, the condition of the case and movement, and particularly the area in which you live, the demand and the economy. ALSO, WATCHES ARE NOT MY FIELD. However, I can advise the clock owner on proper maintenance of a clock to keep it running, small corrections and adjustments and how to move a clock without damaging it. I can also advise on obtaining parts for clocks. As clock case model label numbers are difficult to relate to the movements, it is helpful if you can give me the information usually found on the movements themselves. Modern clock movements usually have the information on the back plate of the movement. I have been a clockmaker for about 40 years and was plant engineer in the mid 90's and later operations and engineering consultant at Emperor Clock Company in Fairhope, Alabama. I now have my own clock shop in Prattville, Alabama.


One of my greatest accomplishments was traveling to China to assist a clock factory in building clocks to the standards which we required at Emperor. With the proper specifications and quality control, some beautiful clock cases were built. The factory people from the wood carvers to the plant manager were very congenial, friendly and I left a lot of wonderful friends when I returned from my trips.

NAWCC (National Association of Watch and Clock Collectors) 30 years Prattville, Alabama Chamber of Commerce

Horological Times, a publication of the American Watch and Clockmakers Instute. Collaberated column author, with Photos and ideas for clock movement conversion article.

Associate of Science Mechanical Engineering Technology Emperor Introductory Clock Repair (Eventually taught a portion of the class after becoming employee)

Awards and Honors
Small Business of the Quarter (Prattville, Alabama) Leadership Class of 2009 (Autauga County, Alabama)

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