Expert: Brad Swain - 10/28/2009

Question
QUESTION: Hi Brad, first thank you for the information earlier and sorry to bother you again. I would like to ask you the market value for these coins that offered to me (ALL CONDITION IS VF:
1. 2 1/2 Gulden 1848, 1842, 1874, 1873, 1872,  Netherland
2. One Gulden 1865, 1848, 1909, 1907, 1858, 1912, 1892, 1897, 1939  Netherland
3. One Hongkong Dollar Victoria Queen 1867
4. One Dollar George V King and Emperor of India 1920, (1907, 1904 EDWARD VII)
5. 8 Reales FM 1797 CAROLUS IIII
6. 8 Reales FF 1781 CAROLUS III
7. 8 Reales IM 1772 CAROLUS III
8. 8 Reales PR 1792 CAROLUS IIII
9.  8 Reales MF 1770 CAROLVS III, Mexico
10.  8 Reales FM 1789 CAROLUS IV
11.  8 Reales FM 1800 CAROLUS IIII
12.  8 Reales RG 1821 FERDIN VII
13. 8 Reales II 1820 FERDIN VII
14. 8 Reales IJ 1794 CAROLUS IIII
15. 8 Reales PI 1818 FERDIN VII
16. 8 Reales TH 1805 CAROLUS IIII
17. One Rupee 1905 EDWARD VII
18. VICTORIA QUEEN 50 Cents 1898 STRAIT SETTLEMENT
19. REPUBLICA MEXICANA 8 R. G 1854 P F 10D 20G
20. REPUBLICA MEXICANA 8 R. Z 1876 J S 10D 20G

Also, i have attached bunch of images for the coins i can't translate. Thx


Regards

Rudy Tan


ANSWER: Hi Rudy, Counterfeits and fantasy pieces mass produced in East Asia, the Middle East and Eastern Europe abound of Chinese and U.S. coins, and many other countries'.
Weighing them may be the best telltale of genuineness.
Chinese counterfeit factory: http://coins.about.com/od/worldcoins/ig/Chinese-Counterfeiting-Ring/Chinese-Fake .
I have listed below the weight of genuine pieces. I suggest weighing the coins first. If your coins are off by a half gram or more then they are fake and have no collector value. You can send me a list of the remainder that may be genuine for their values.
1. 2 1/2 Gulden 1848, 1842, 1874, 1873, 1872 Netherlands, 25.0 grams.
2. 1 Gulden 1865, 1848, 1909, 1907, 1858, 1912, 1892, 1897, 1939 Netherlands, 10.0 grams.
3. Hong Kong 1 Dollar Victoria Queen 1867, 27.2 grams.
4. STRAIT SETTLEMENT Dollar George V King and Emperor of India 1920, 16.85 grams; 1907, 1904 EDWARD VII, 26.95 grams.
5. 8 Reales FM 1797 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams.
6. 8 Reales FF 1781 CAROLUS III, 27.07 grams.
7. 8 Reales IM 1772 CAROLUS III, 27.07 grams.
8. 8 Reales PR 1792 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams.
9.  8 Reales MF 1770 CAROLVS III, 27.07 grams.
10.  8 Reales FM 1789 CAROLUS IV, 27.07 grams.
11.  8 Reales FM 1800 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams.
12.  8 Reales RG 1821 FERDIN VII, 27.07 grams.
13. 8 Reales II 1820 FERDIN VII, 27.07 grams.
14. 8 Reales IJ 1794 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams.
15. 8 Reales PI 1818 FERDIN VII, 27.07 grams.
16. 8 Reales TH 1805 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams.
17. India 1 Rupee 1905 EDWARD VII, 11.66 grams.
18. STRAIT SETTLEMENT VICTORIA QUEEN 50 Cents 1898, 13.58 grams.
19. Mexico 8 R. G 1854 P F 10D 20G, 27.07 grams.
20. Mexico 8 R. Z 1876 J S 10D 20G, 27.07 grams.
You might also try a library for a copy of the Standard Catalog of World Coins for pictures, values and lots more interesting info. New and used copies can be found for sale online.
Brad

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QUESTION: Hi Brad, I have checked the weight using precision scale and i found the list below are genuine (the range off weight from your standard weight less than 0.4 grams)
The List:
1. 2 1/2 Gulden 1848, 1874, 1873, 1872 Netherlands, 25.0 grams.
2. 1 Gulden 1865, 1848, 1909, 1907, 1858, 1912, 1892, 1897, 1939 Netherlands, 10.0 grams.
3. 3 Gulden, 1795 and 1763, Netherlands
4. STRAIT SETTLEMENT Dollar George V King and Emperor of India 1920, 16.85 grams, 1904 EDWARD VII, 26.95 grams.
5. 8 Reales FM 1797 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams.
6. 8 Reales FF 1781 CAROLUS III, 27.07 grams.
7. 8 Reales IM 1772 CAROLUS III, 27.07 grams.
8. 8 Soles 1842, Bolivia
9.  8 Reales MF 1770 CAROLVS III, 27.07 grams.
11. 8 Reales FM 1800 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams.
12. 1 Piastre 1922, France
13. 8 Reales II 1820 FERDIN VII, 27.07 grams.
14. 8 Reales IJ 1794 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams.
15. 8 Reales PI 1818 FERDIN VII, 27.07 grams.
16. 8 Reales TH 1805 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams.
17. STRAIT SETTLEMENT VICTORIA QUEEN 50 Cents 1898, 13.58 grams.
18. Mexico 8 Reales. G 1854 P F 10D 20G, 27.07 grams.
19. Mexico 8 Reales Z 1876 J S 10D 20G, 27.07 grams.

Thank's again for the help. Also i would to send some images of the coin i couldn't identify from the website you gave me. i send it to your email address . Thx

Regards

Rudy Tan

Answer
Hi Rudy, sorry for the ddelay, it was a long list. Genuine examples of the following coins in VF condition may be worth the following:
1. 2 1/2 Gulden 1848, 1842, 1874, 1873, 1872 Netherlands, 25.0 grams, $25, $80, $15, $15, $15
2. 1 Gulden 1865, 1848, 1909, 1907, 1858, 1912, 1892, 1897, 1939 Netherlands, 10.0 grams, $20, $25, $35, $20, $25, $35, $20, $22, $3.50
3. Hong Kong 1 Dollar Victoria Queen 1867, 27.2 grams, $300
4. STRAIT SETTLEMENTS Dollar George V King and Emperor of India 1920, 16.85 grams; 1907, 1904 EDWARD VII, 26.95 grams, $50
5. 8 Reales FM 1797 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams, Mexico, $50
6. 8 Reales FF 1781 CAROLUS III, 27.07 grams, Mexico, $75
7. 8 Reales IM 1772 CAROLUS III, 27.07 grams, Peru, $100
8. 8 Reales PR 1792 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams, Bolivia, $120
9.  8 Reales MF 1770 CAROLVS III, 27.07 grams, Mexico, $125
10.  8 Reales FM 1789 CAROLUS IV, 27.07 grams, Mexico, $120
11.  8 Reales FM 1800 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams, Mexico, $50
12.  8 Reales Zs RG 1821 FERDIN VII, 27.07 grams, Mexico, $35
13. 8 Reales II 1820 FERDIN VII, 27.07 grams, Mexico, $50
14. 8 Reales IJ 1794 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams, Peru, $75
15. 8 Reales PI 1818 FERDIN VII, 27.07 grams, Bolivia, $80
16. 8 Reales TH 1805 CAROLUS IIII, 27.07 grams, Mexico, $50
17. India 1 Rupee 1905 EDWARD VII, 11.66 grams, $9
18. STRAIT SETTLEMENT VICTORIA QUEEN 50 Cents 1898, 13.58 grams, $110
19. Mexico 8 R. Go 1854 PF 10D 20G, 27.07 grams, $20
20. Mexico 8 R. Zs 1876 JS 10D 20G, 27.07 grams, $20
Brad