Coin and Paper Money Collecting/1821 8 Reale


8 Reale
8 Reale  
A friend of mine has an 1821 8 Reale with what looks like an L in DEI (gratia)in place of the i.
All i have is the pic that i have attached as i can't gain access to the coin.
I'm not really after a valuation but more to to find out if this is a possible error or just "cud" on the coin.
The "L" bears a striking resemblance to the L's used in in British coinage for the 18th & 19th centuries.
I can find no reference to any error being made on an 8 Reale coin,so it's up for debate!
Many thanks


Hi Pete,
This is the result of an error. For a struck coin this would be either from a die crack (a cud as you mentioned). However, I am always suspicious when I see these "no mouth" issues since many of them turn out to be fakes and these are usually the ones from Zacatecas with mint and assayer marks Zs RG on the other side. The extra material is also something consistent with a cast coin, as is the difference in denticles. The bottom ones do not quite go to the edge as the others do. Based on this picture I would treat this coin with a good deal of skepticism.
Thanks for the question! =)

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Dmitry Livshits


My specialty is world coins from the 18th to 20th centuries, primarily non-US foreign coins and related areas such as errors and exonumia (tokens, medals, etc.). I can answer questions relating to identification, grading, selling, preservation and evaluation of such items. In addition to catalog value, I can give you the practical market value and trends for specific types of coins. I will also take questions regarding counterfeits (both modern and antique) and on how to identify them. I am NOT knowledgeable in paper money/banknotes, ancient or "shipwreck" coins. Thank you.


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A.S. in Psychology (2006), B.A. in Forensic Psychology (2008), M.A. in Forensic Psychology (2011).

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