Expert: Rodger Knutson - 12/4/2009

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QUESTION: Hey Roger,

I tried to add some more info to my previous question but did't see it, so I will summarize it in another question.

I definitely have E1000 parts in an E2000 machine.  After I  put the new battery on the piggy back board, more things started happening.  The fault code got past the previous error on the personal chip, and pointed to memory chip #2. I decided to swap positions for chips #1 and #2, to see if the fault now pointed to #1.  

Well...  appeared to get past all the memory errors now...  and we're SMOKIN!!!!!  I mean literally!!!!!   The hopper board, an E1000 by the way, was smoking.  I quickly shut the thing off, pulled the board, and noticed that the resistor in position R3 was fried. I soldered in a new one, swapped the #1 and #2 memory chips on the MPU board back to their original positions, and tried it again.  And wouldn't you know it...  we're SMOKIN!!!!   Yes... again!

I put in another new resistor and decided to hit the manual again.  This is when I noticed that on the bottom of page 12 in the Series E Service Manual (80-86), that when using an E1000 Hopper board in an E2000, the 120vac wire must be moved from connector position 8 to 9.  This had not been done. I then confirmed that position 8 did lead to the R3 resistor that kept smoking.

I moved the wire to position 9, and with a new R3 resistor, tried again to power up. This time however I crossed my fingers, my toes, my arms...  ah heck...  I even crossed my DOGS paws ok!

No more smoking...  However, the LED now displays a 0 in position 5 and the reset and test buttons on the Hopper board have no affect on the machine's status.   So here I sit...  a 0 in led #5.

It appears that position 9 of the connector, where I move the wire to, is just a dummy slot.  

So oh wise one...  I bow before you ever so humbly...  in search of your infinite wisdom and guidance...

As always....  You Da Man!

Thanks,

Doug



ANSWER: You are are not using a e-1000 board in a e-2000 machine, forget the model number, by your e-1000 mpu and e-1000 hopper board, you have a e-1000 machine. Is your hopper board a e-1000? We haven't checked this out yet.
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QUESTION: Yes it is the e1000 hopper board for sure, based on the pictures. And by the way, I thought it was an E2000 machine because of the E2209-28 on  the side plate as well as the square LED's

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Doug,

I know the machine might carry a E-2000 Series type model number, but I was trying to let you know the some early E-2000 series machines carrying the E-2000 series model numbers, were built with the remaining Bally E-1000 series parts in stock at Bally. This meaning they're really made with e-1000 series parts, so they are e-1000 machines but carrying a model tag reading e-2000. So you need to work with e-1000 series information if the parts in your machine happen to be E-1000 type parts. If you have a E-1000 series MPU board and a E-1000 hopper board then this machine for testing purpose's is a W-100 model. Think of it this way, the E-1 models were the type of machine they were, the rest of the numbers after the E-1 like E-1212 means it's a e-1000 series model and the rest of the numbers refer to the type of model in the series, Re Small, large, fat, tall, wide body, step up unit type, progressive so on and so on. Then you might see a - after say the model like E-1212-037, the -037 will refer to which game is being used in the model of this E-1212 cabinet like wiled 7's or bar 7's or jackpot only, or whatever.
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