Question QUESTION: I have two Mills diamond fronts working fine. It's my Palace Pace nickle four reel machine that is jammed. Aside from the circular coin escalator it's operation is the same as my other machines. Never before could I not free a jam which was usually in the escalator. In this case the problem is elsewhere. The operating lever is down half way and won't move up or down. Payout levers and brakes are back with the clock half wound and reels free to rotate. Prior to this it worked fine except the reels were becoming a bit sluggish. It's too much of a fun slot to become mere decoration. Where do I look?
ANSWER: Hi Oliver,
I wonder if you can take the pull down arm off the coin escalator so the coin escalator is detached from the mechanism and then pull the mechenism down. Jams are mostly in that escalator, other that that you may be able to release the mechanism so it will return by lifting on that dog just above the main arm that the handle hub forces down on play. Above that arm is a small cog that grabs notched teeth in the top of that arm casting and stops it from returning. Need a photo if I can find you one?
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QUESTION: Thanks Rodger. I just had a chance to take out the mech again. Had to put a screwdriver on the dog and hit with a hammer to release the mechanism and the arm did return to the resting position. At least the tension on the machine is released which is half the battle. Tied up the dog while I continue to experiment so I don't have to pound on it again. The arm still goes only half way down. It looks like a post held by a clip links the escalator to the arm. I'm not real confident in dismantling. I have a Mills manual but not one for Pace and the big difference is the escalator. Will I get into trouble removing the clip and pulling the linkage off the post? Is this the necessary next step? Do you know anyone in central New Jersey who repairs old slots?
Answer Hi Oliver,
If your mechanism is working fine, and it is the coin escalator that is bad, removing this bar or arm that pulls the coin escalator down which also rotates the coins in it as the mechanism is advanced, should tell you if the problem is in the coin escalator or in the reel mechanism. If you pull this arm off at the top of the coin escalator it will isolate the escalator or disconnect it from the mechanism. Now if you can cycle the mechanism without any problems you will know that something is jamming up in the coin escalator which is causing the mechanism jam. If your mechanism still doesn't cycle with the escalator unconnected, then the problem is in you reel mechanism and not in the coin escalator. I have a large manual on the Pace machine, about 150 pages with hundreds of photos explaining how to take this machine apart and how to put it back together, also explaining what these parts do along the way. If you would like this manual write me directly at firstname.lastname@example.org and we can talk about it. Oh.., please do not use a hammer as if you break a part on this machine it will ruin you day, these are cast parts and they can snap just like that. Finding replacement parts for a Pace is not an easy job, you have to search and search forever and hope to get lucky or go to the welding shop and see if it can be welded. I know I have seen many a machine that I have wanted to take a hammer to, but somehow I have always been able to hold myself back, (LOL) so far anyway.
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Rodger is knowledgeable in the area of slot machine repair and maintenance, patient and willing to assist. He helped me diagnose and fix my machine. I was able to locate a jam by freeing up the arm and isolating the reel mechanism from the escalator. In my case dried grease in the fork and lack of lubricant in the kicker was the problem. My Pace slot is now a fun game rather than a coat rack.
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