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Dear Vic,

   In an answer to a question that someone else asked, you wrote, "There is no specific distance that the snapper "has to be" to long snap the ball; HOWEVER, for the formation to be considered a "Scrimmage Kick Formation" by rule, on of the elements is that the kicker must be 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage.  Thus the kicker must be  7 yards deep."

   Did you mean that, by rule, the kicker must at least be 7 yards deep, or must be no more and no less than 7 yards deep?


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Michael
What I meant in that reply was that to be designated as a long snapper there is no specifici distance the snap must be.  The second aspect of my reply was to explain that a long snapper is used in a scrimmage kick formation in which one of the elements is that the kicker must be at least 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage.  So to clarify for you the NCAA Rule - A scrimmage kick formation is a formation with at least one player seven (7) yards or more behind the neutral zone, no player in position to receive a hand-to-hand snap from between the snapper’s legs, and it is obvious that a kick may be attempted.  If Team A is in a scrimmage kick formation at the snap, any action by Team A during the down is deemed to be from a scrimmage kick formation.

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