Critics of Jehovah`s Witnesses/Thinking for themselves

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Andrew,

I have read the other answers you have given and am I correct in thinking that JWs are not allowed to think for themselves?

Just what do you mean by not thinking for themselves. Doses that mean that everything they do comes form their leaders? DO they have choice in clothing, food, movies, music or are these controlled as well?

You said that they can not use the internet. Is that realy so?

What happens if a JW does not understand some theolgical concept that their leaders print? DO they have to accept everything that is told them

Gordon  

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Dear Gordon,

> I have read the other answers you have given and am I
> correct in thinking that JWs are not allowed to think for
> themselves? Just what do you mean by not thinking for
> themselves.

Cult mind control interferes with people's ability and incentive to think for themselves. So it isn't a matter of a simple regulation which people would respond to by saying, "OK, I'm not allowed to so I'll refrain from doing so."

It's hard to understand what cult mind control is by just scratching the surface. Hollywood unfortunately circulates a lot of misinformation, which makes the average citizen quite unaware of what it is and how it works, and therefore unprepared to defend themselves or understand what is happening to loved ones when they get involved with cults.

In order to get a complete answer to your question, you will have to do some reading about the tactics used. There are only a finite set of tactics used by all cult organizations. That is, perhaps 8 or 10 types. One good summary can be found at http://www.freeminds.org/psych/lifton.htm

My experience suggests that the Witness organization uses all or most of the tactics described. In my opinion, this is the best rule of thumb as to whether an organization is a cult: Does it use all or most of the tactics of cult mind control?

> Doses that mean that everything they do comes form their
> leaders? DO they have choice in clothing, food, movies,
> music or are these controlled as well?

For most of us, most of the decisions we make each day are merely preferences, with little or no moral weight. The Witness mindset is such that almost every decision, no matter how minor, carries moral weight; and that therefore there is a right or wrong choice. If not inherently right and wrong, this mindset suggests that even minor preference decisions may be right or wrong based on how others view God as a result of actions of an individual Witness. The organization is always ready to suggest which course of action in any decision will 'reflect best on God'.

Usually the organization does not lay down hard and fast rules, but instead 'gives guidelines' which individual Witnesses are expected to apply for themselves. This is a dishonest means of enforcement, however, because those who fail to apply an idea for themselves in the way the organization thinks they should are gradually pressured and punished for not doing so. So how can it really be said that a concept was ever self-applied?

Their organization publishes hundreds of pages each year to help individual Witnesses make the "right" choice in even these kinds of things like you enumerate: clothing, food, movies, and music. Individual Witnesses are expected to read these hundreds of pages and keep a home library that goes back many years so as to be able to guide their every decision based on this voluminous written material.

With this way of life, there are no innocent personal preference decisions; little lightheartedness; every decision is potentially a life and death matter, which I think contributes to mental illness among many Witnesses.

> You said that they can not use the internet. Is that
> realy so?

I stopped attending meetings with the Witnesses almost 10 years ago, and have not kept up with their many policies which change constantly. What does not change is their underlying modus operandi.

As of that time, Witnesses were warned about the danger of the Internet. The leadership considers it dangerous because the Internet allows a free flow of information. One of the tactics of cult mind control is to regulate the flow of information, so that followers cannot hear all sides of an issue. The Internet is a real threat to cult organizations, and has resulted in many people beginning their journey toward freedom of mind, because it makes it possible for people to seach for and compare all alternative views. Seeing all sides of any given issue makes people better able to make informed choices.

As of 10 years ago, Witnesses were prohibited from using the Internet in certain ways, but not prohibited from using it entirely. I don't know what their current policy is. I heard throught he grapevine that they have gotten more restrictive regarding the Internet than they used to be. I know people who have been excommunicated for the way they used the Internet.

> What happens if a JW does not understand some theolgical
> concept that their leaders print? DO they have to accept
> everything that is told them

They do have to accept everything that is told them. Even silent dissent isn't permitted. Individual Witnesses must verbally agree with each and every idea that comes from the platform at their many meetings, and from the hundreds of pages per year of written material that comes from their headquarters.

Many discussion sessions makes it difficult to remain undiscovered as a silent dissenter, and pressures people to say they agree. The psychology of cognitive dissonance makes it difficult to continue to dissent within one's private mindspace while saying one agrees (even in pretense).

Agreement is cultivated by many tactics, yet it is artificial because of these tactics, so the unity of thought Witnesses proudly claim is also artificial.

Asking questions to understand is encouraged, and there are many opportunities to ask such questions. The organization has an answer for almost every conceivable question. They are very well prepared.

However asking questions to challenge or invite alternatives or stimulate thinking will very quickly result in getting the questioner shunned or marginalized at best. Tens of thousands of Witnesses are excommunicated each year. They will point to many causes, such as sexual "immorality" and smoking; but ultimately there is only one cause: Dissent. If you don't immediately capitulate when an elder corrects you on any point great or small, you are labelled rebellious, and this is the real reason for excommunication in ALL cases.

Closed systems of logic cannot withstand open inquiry. Their organization would come unravelled very quickly if they did not expel and excommunicate challenging questioners.

They are so strict about not communicating with expelled persons that parents refuse to speak to teenage children and kick them out on the streets. Most of the remaining "faithful" flock left in the congregation after an excommunication never even know the reason a person was expelled, even a best friend, and certainly never get to hear their side of the story. How can there be any other relevant side of the story besides "God's" side?

The problem is equating the organization with God. This is dishonest and does not allow for human error. I hope this answers your question.

Best wishes,
Andrew

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I don't object to Witness theology, but rather their use of social pressure & deceptive manipulations to undermine family ties and control minds. (This may seem contradictory to Witnesses, who draw no distinction between spiritual belief and organizational policy.) I do not engage in theological debate. I support persons impacted by an experience with the Witnesses and advocate early education for everyone so that they can protect themselves from cults by understanding what to watch out for. (It's not what most people think.)

(Ex-)Witnesses: I know how upsetting it is to experience doubts (or anger) about your experience. Time does not heal this wound until you first remove the splinter, which takes more time and effort than you may realize. So, unless you have already put in that time and effort, don't be surprised if you are deeply affected long after the experience. But there is good news! You're NOT an enemy of God for doubting or for failing to meet the requirements of a human organization. An organization that lies cannot be the exclusive spokesman for the God of Truth. Tell me where you're at. I'll understand. I can show you how to begin or continue your recovery and make a life for yourself worth living.

Non-Witnesses: Describe your experience with your friend/relative who is (becoming) a Witness. I can help you understand the Witness indoctrination and social dynamics that are affecting him or her. I can help you put your options into perspective. Keep in mind that people do make their own choices (even though they may sometimes do so under outside influence) and you may not be able to affect this person's choices, even though they impact on you. After all, you do not have the arsenal of tactics that a cult does (and wouldn't want to). A few people manage to save their friend/relative, but don't count on it. What you can count on is navigating the maze more successfully by becoming more informed about your own options.

Experience

I was a Witness for 30 years, and a volunteer at their headquarters in Brooklyn, New York, for a year. I have attended meetings with many Witness congregations across the United States, a thorough cross-section, carefully observing patterns of behavior. Although being a Witness was difficult, and I gradually had more and more doubts about Witness teachings--I was a true believer, so I kept trying to make it work somehow. I stopped attending meetings in 1997 only after receiving an answer to a prayer about doing so, and have since been actively involved in recovery. This includes both my own and supporting others in theirs. Recovery can include reading books, communicating with others in recovery, and participating in support groups and/or therapy. It always involves reclaiming one's own mind and discovering the other sides of the issues that you have been blinded to in the past.

My gradual awakening was socially, psychologically, and spiritually tumultuous. I lost everything from my former life. My suffering was substantial.

But I have gained everything, so it was worth it. Only after beginning my recovery did I gain social, psychological, and spiritual healing and growth, peace of mind, and self-respect. Only then did I discover who I am; and--for the first time--the meaning of real brotherly love.

For more resources on this topic, try these web sites:
http://freeminds.org/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedomofmind/



Education/Credentials
Like most Cult Recovery Counselors, I am a cult survivor. I have life experience, not professional training. Also I feel no need to apologize for that. People with professional training cannot understand what it is like to survive a cult unless they have been through it themselves, which few professional therapists have. Understanding what really happened and what works in this unusual social context is as important as psychological training. Most professional therapists are not specifically trained to support cult survivors. Those who are represent a rare and precious resource.

I sometimes refer people to professional therapists regarding deep personal issues. But surviving a cult is a broad experience with other dimensions. Professional therapy can be very helpful as part of your recovery process, assuming that you choose the right therapist. When choosing a therapist, remember that you are the client and they are a service provider. You are the one who holds authority about the relationship. You get to interview the therapist and decide which one to employ.

Be sure to ask what specific training and experience they have around recovery from cult mind control. Most therapists do not have relevant training. Some carry serious misunderstandings about what cult mind control is; and therefore will misunderstand your struggle. So it pays to be selective as a consumer of professional therapy services.

Past/Present Clients
The Witness organization is not like other churches. Most non-Witnesses really cannot imagine what it is like to be a Witness. The organization has unimaginably extensive rules and monitoring that affect every aspect of life, so there is no privacy and no sense of personal independence. "Independent thought" is considered their greatest "sin".

The organization insists on absolute conformity, and claims to directly represent God; so dissent is not tolerated, and authority is totalitarian. Being a Witness is more like living in China or the former Soviet Union than being a member of a religion as you know it. It was the research of Robert J. Lifton, who was studying--not religions--but totalitarian governments, who first began to illuminate the problem of religious cults around the world, which employ exactly the same tactics as totalitarian governments. His work remains a cornerstone for Cult Recovery Counselors still today. (This may be why many governments are tolerant of cults, to avoid exposing their own control tactics.)

Witnesses often experience unusually dysfunctional lives and an extensive array of personal problems stemming from broken family ties, stunted social development, inner unrest resulting from repressed doubts, inability to defend boundaries, and an extreme, persistent feeling of irrational shame. I can help people impacted by an experience with the Witnesses by revealing in detail the policies and social dynamics in the Witness organization that cause these problems.

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