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Hi,

I'm having much trouble solving this 3rd order linear ODE. It is

y''' - 8y = 0

I get the auxiliary/characteristic equation of

r^3 - 8 = 0

From that I get

r = 2

Which leads me to the solution of

y = c1*e^2x + c2*x*e^2x + c3*x^2*e^2x

I double checked my work and found that this is not the solution. So, I used a program called Scientific Workplace to solve it. It gave me

y = c1*e^2x + c2*e^-x*cos(sqrt(3)x) + c3*e^-x*sin(sqrt(3)x)

I have no idea of where the root of -1 +/- i*sqrt(3) comes from. I fail to see where I'm going wrong here. I've used this method to solve other 3rd order linear ODEs, but can't here. Can you tell me where I'm going wrong or if I can't use this method for this ODE? Thanks!

I kept thinking the answer of mine needed fixing, and finally saw how to really solve the ODE.

I get something similar to what they get.

Try it this way and see what you get.

If we let the solution be f(x) = c(e^-x)(sin(ax) + cos(ax)), we get

f'(x) = c(e^-x)[(-1-a)sin(ax) + (-1+a)cos(ax)]. This leads to

f"(x) = c(e^-x)[(1+2a-a²)sin(ax) + (1-2a-a²)cos(ax)]. Differentiating again gives

f"'(x) = c(e^-x)[(-1+3a+3a²-a)sin(ax) + (-1+3a+3a²-a)cos(ax)].

That leads to f"'(x) = c(e^-x)(-1+3a+3a²-a³)[sin(ax)+cos(ax)].

To solve this, so -1+3a+3a²-a³ = 0. As can be seen, -1 is a root, so we can factor out (1+a).

Factoring gives us (1+a)(-1+4a-a²). That is the same as -(1+a)(1-4a+a²).

The roots of the quadratic are [4ħsqrt(16-4)]/2 = [4ħsqrt(12)]/2 [4ħ2*sqrt(3)]/2 = 2ħsqrt(3).

That reduces to 2ħsqrt(3), which is 1ħsqrt(3).

Thus, we have the roots a = -1, 2+sqrt(3), and 2-sqrt(3).

Putting these in and using the equations sin(a+b) = sin(a)cos(b) + cos(a)sin(b),

sin(a-b) = sin(a)cos(b) - sin(b)cos(a), cos(a+b) = cos(a)cos(b) - sin(a)sin(b), and

cos(a-b) = cos(a)cos(b) + sin(a)sin(b) may give the something similar to the answer suggested.

After doing all this, I just realized I forgot that there was a 2 in the exponential.

Try modifying what I gave with that in mind and right back again with further questions ...

if necessary.

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