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About Charles C. Jones
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Topic: Electric Power & Utilities



Expert: Charles C. Jones
Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: 3/4 HP 110/220VAC Cap Start Doerr Motor

Question
Motor appears to be wired permanently for 110VAC; Run windings are joined internally {with T1 to T3 and T2 to T4}

Motor has a three-wire "stationary" switch controlled by the centrifugal/mechanical switch. One internal wire [marked "J something"] goes to one terminal of Cap; the other two wires [J10 & J11] go to external wires [a Red and a White/Black, respectively].

The "Other" Cap wire [internally marked T8] goes to Start winding. The Start winding then goes externally to T5, a White wire.

This trolley motor direction was constantly reversed.

Questions:
How does this stationary switch work? How is it hooked up externally to provide for CW/CCW rotation?

If say, the T5 wire was wired HOT/L1, what did they do with J10 & J11? I am assuming this scheme is for CW/CCW control....???

The external Blue & Orange wires go to an internal "Thermostat" buried within the stator...are these the typical P1 & P2? If so, is the thermostat wired externally to some over-temp alarm, or is it wired in series with the Run windings?  Thank you, Charles

Answer
The stationary switch you are referring to I believe is a instant reverse switch. It is made so that one set of contacts are always closed. This keeps the motor from having to coast down, and let the centrifugal switch come to rest. Other than making connection for the start winding, it has no part in the actual reversing of rotation. This must still be done with a contactor or drum switch, by reversing T5 and T8.  

As for the J numbered wires, these are not normal numbers in the wiring schematics that I have. At the moment, I just can't get a mental picture of how this is connected. Although the thermostats can be wired externally to a contactor, these are probably connected in series with the run windings. This is one of those deals that I would need to have in front of me to diagnose.

This diagram might help you better understand what your up against.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/96245499@N00/253735324/sizes/m/

We had a fire several years ago that destroyed most of our schematics and diagrams of older motors, but I will look and see if I can find further info.

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