Electrical Wiring in the Home/drills

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I have a 12 volt drill that needs batteries.  Been ready some things on the web and ran across some interesting ideas- leading to my question.  Can I take an ordinary ac/dc converter, such as  used on a charger for another small appliance and hook it directly to the two terminals on the drill, and plug it in.  Will it work, making it a direct hookup from a light receptacle?  From what I have read it makes me think it will.  Any ideas?  Thanks, Richard

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Richard      I see where you are going,  and a bit of basic electricity will help,     the drill is designed to use a certain amount of power,  consistently,     included in that power is voltage   12 volts DC  with a certain amount of tolerance,  maybe plus or minus 10%  it depends on the tool,  so the motor is expecting 12 volts within the tolerances,  too low no go, possible damage,  too high possible damage,     

The problem with an ordinary converter   such as a laptop type external converter is you need to match not only the voltage  but the amperage    measured in amps or micro amps,  if you look at 10 power supplies you will see some with the same voltage on the output but rarely the same amount of potential current,     

One might be 200 micro amps,   some 900    some  several amps,       micro is

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Two problems   the supply must be capable of supplying the rated voltage in a constant state,   also  because you are talking a drill you are talking a motor,    the motor will not work hard just spinning, but drill into a knot and the motor is doing all it can to push the bit through the load,   

Next problem, is the motor and drill designed to see pure DC like out of a battery or can it use rectified AC    which is basically taking the AC and changing it to DC        some motors are specifically designed for pure DC others do not like converted AC, and how you would find that out will be a problem    because I am sure their design is proprietary,      

So you would need more than a ORDINARY power supply,  you would need one that matches the battery capacity,  and voltage,      are the batteries standard or built for the drill?

Like a car battery  you can get 500 cranking hours,   700  so on     a way they label the power available in a particular battery,  the higher the crank amps,  [full load bearing down on a cold engine needing all the power it can produce]

So the design of the drill is for certain power rated 12 volt batteries, maybe off the shelf, type   a bunch of D batteries  or a special battery for the drill,   I cannot say from here,   

Bottom line is if you can find a supply that can produce the same power as the battery or batteries that are in it,     a supply that can hold up during changing loads,     yes you can use a power supply,    

But like a battery charger   you can find a battery charger that takes 30 minutes,   then there are chargers that "mind" the battery  say for a stored car or some device to keep a trickle on it,   all the same voltage   but huge differences in power,      

Then you see expensive chargers that have starting capability       many will say  do not try to start an engine or some such language with this charger,    the in rush current will be too high for the guts of the device,          

So you need to know if the unit needs clean dc,  if it can be run off rectified DC,    and you need to know the capacity it needs,    and on short bursts  when like the example of a knot in some wood might occur,    

YES  I see what where you are going, but just some 12 volt  "charger" is not a power supply   two different things,   

YOU need a power supply    a battery is a power supply,          

Once you match all that up,   yes a power supply will work,     not a trickle charger   a power supply   they look the same in some cases   most are chargers,     chargers put power in the battery over time    you want instant power,    that is the difference,      

Maybe consider a battery charger with spare set of batteries,      that would be ideal and how many cordless tools work,  one battery in the charger one in the device,     

It would be a good learning experience, but beware,  a charger on a drill and a load to the bit,  may just blow the hell out of both,          

So you need to match the capacity of both and the new device should match the battery capacity   voltage is not the only thing you need,  

Our shop is repair@mearservice.com   phone is 816-650-4030   if we can help by phone or email   give us a call or drop us a note,  
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