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Hi our home is about 8 years old. When we first moved in, 4 years ago, one of the upstairs light fixtures did not work. Recently, we had some other light fixtures go out. I thought the bulbs burnt out. They use the 4 pin light bulbs. Replaced the light bulbs yesterday, but still not working. One light is in the master bath, one right outside the master bedroom and 2 in the loft area. Any advice on how to troubleshoot would be appreciated! Thank you!

Karey,   most likey it is a neutral connection located in some switch box or outlet,   say there were 6 white neutrals all under one wire nut,  they can come loose and one by one the circuits open,  before you go tracking down the box where the power is distributed from  did you check for switchable fixtures,  somewhere behind a chest of drawers or anywhere?  You would be amazed the number of switched outlets and fixtures that go unnoticed,       but say there are none,  now are there any GFCI outlets that could be failing?    Fixtures and other outlets can be on a GFCI  they should be marked as such  an fixtures are not likely but check the simple things first like  all GFCIs  no matter where they are,   make sure a breaker is not half tripped,  so on,       once you verified the simple things,  then you have to find if the power is bundled from the switch box,   or the fixture or a couple fixtures,  and again it sounds like one bundle of white wires has come loose,          

But to find it,  you need the house schematic or you need to check each one by one and for safety reasons      and no more work than it is     start with the easiest switch box, or the outlet, that is simple to get to  start checking connections and looking for any signs of arcing  darkened wires so on,  

But since these are gong out one by one,   it really sounds like a bundled bunch of neutral wires has come loose    once you find it   then make sure nothing is arced or burnt  if so repair or cut off the bad spots if enough wire is left,     if you find anything massive,   get an electrician   but often now days they put too many wires in one wire nut, shove all that in an outlet   in a switch box or even a fixture,          the electrician decides where to feed from    so if you have the house wiring scheme       so much the easier,   

As you check off the simple stuff,   GFCI   switched fixtures or outlets,   and it is none of those  then cover by cover you start looking  or you can get a non contact voltage tracer it beeps until the power is no longer there   they cost about $50 for a semi decent one,   it makes tracing though sheet rock much much easier    but I bet you will find where ever they fed from   there is a bunch of white wires that have come loose   just too many wires under one wire nut,       that is the most likely  

As you go,  let me know what you find or suspect and we can talk it over,  
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