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About Captain Mike Grove
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Questions relating to but not limited to:

**Firefighter Entry Exams
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I possess the ability and willingness to assist those who may be or have family members seeking a future in the fire service or anyone seeking general information relating to promotional opportunities, general fire safety or any other similiar topics.

I have 30 years of full time experience with the city of Overland Park, KS fire department.



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30 year veteran with the City of Overland Park Kansas Fire Department.

Overland Park,a large suburb of Kansas City, Missouri, is the second most populous city in Kansas with a population of 166,000

http://www.opkansas.org
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Overland Park ranks as one of the most progressive departments, as well as cities, in the United States. In 2006 CNN/Money Magazine ranked it 6th on it's "100 Best Cities to live in the United States". A recent 2007 article by National Geographic Magazine lists Overland Park as one of the top 50 US destinations.

Our department seems to grow daily and currently staffs approximately 160 paid fire and EMS personnel covering 69 square miles of territory with five stations. Our training facility is nothing less than state of the art with live computer controlled burn props on several floors of it's five story tower. A recently added Command and Control Center has added a new dimension to our regional wide response to large incidents.

I currently carry the rank of Captain/EMT. To this day I totally love my job and department as well as those individuals I work with. My family members include three brothers in the fire service as well as three in law enforcement. My father was a fire chief with a midwest fire department before he retired after 32 years of service.
I am willing and able to answer questions on any fire/EMS related subject you may have. I can help with questions related to entry level testing as well as the physical agility and the interview process. I will do my best to answer any and all questions to your satisfaction in a timely manner.

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Associates of Applied Science in Fire Science
Firefighter I/II/III Certification / Kansas University
Fire Instructor I / Kansas University
Emergency Medical Techician Certification
Fire Officer I Certification / Kansas University
HazardousMaterials Recognition and Identification
Scene Safety Officer Certification / National Fire Academy
Incident Command System / National Fire Academy
Incident Management System / University of Missouri, Columbia
National Incident Management System Certification / National Fire Academy
Command and Control of Target Hazards / National Fire Academy
 
   

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Topic: Fire & Emergency Careers, And Fire Safety Info



Expert: Captain Mike Grove
Date: 4/26/2008
Subject: Firefighter death

Question
I recently read about the tragic LODD of a 24 year old firefighter in Prince William County, VA.  He was on the second floor in the master bedroom looking for victims when the fire suddenly escalated and he became disoriented and trapped.  My overwhelming reaction was why the family that lived in this home did not inform the first responders that they were all safely out of the house and there was no need to enter the burning structure.  There was no mention of this in the followup investigation.  Why is there no nation wide public education to always inform first responders when there are no victims inside a burning structure?

Answer
Jane:

 First of all thanks for choosing me in efforts to help.

 This LODD death sounds like many others that occur much too frequently. I have not seen the details of this particular incident but I would have several questions if I were investigating. A few of those would include:

(1) Was the FF working in a company? Where were the others?
(2) Did his PASS device activate and if so why wasn't it heard?
(3) What were the fire conditions upon entry?
(4) What was the condition of the FFs SCBA?


 When I/we respond to a fire and assume a Command role it is my responsibility to find out whether the structure is occupied or not. I personally do not bank on anyone coming to me personally to advise me of anyone inside the structure. There is way too much confusion for an occupant as it is. There are experiencing possibly the most tragic event of their lifetime and may not be thinking rationally enough to locate me to give needed information.

  One of the very first tasks I/we have is to contact the occupant/s to see if everyone is out. This information is broadcast over the radio for all incoming companies to hear. If I am told that someone is still inside I then want to know his or her last known exact location (bedroom on the second floor etc;). I also will ask if the person knows where the fire started and what the conditions were upon their exit of the structure. I will also order additional resources. All this information is immediately passed to attack/search crews with hose lines and Thermal Imaging cameras. It is also my responsibility to make a 360-degree walk around of the structure to assess conditions. If I were to deem the structure untenable due to a heavy fire condition then we go into a defensive mode and anyone inside is deemed to be a recovery rather than a rescue. That’s the hard part but at times it’s necessary to protect crews from possible death. Crews are never separated!! That’s the cardinal rule of firefighting. Too many things can happen when you're by yourself. If crew integrity were a priority tragic event like this could possibly be avoided.

Please let me know if there is any thing else you may need.  

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