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Hardy rod
Hardy rod  

rod case  and rod
rod case and rod  
My friend has a Hardy bamboo rod and was curious as to the value. The serial # is c17088. The reel seat is located at the center of the handle, much like a spin rod. The cloth bag does show a fly reel attached to the rod. It is a 7 ' 5 oz rod and comes in three pieces. The rod was made by the Hardy Bros. in Alnick, England Pat. # 1437. I have put the rod together and there are missing pieces. The rod does not seem to have used much if at all.It is bamboo and has nickel-silver finish. My friend does not know where the rod was originally purchased as it was a gift from an elderly client of his. I have enclosed photos and would appreciate your help in determining the value of the rod.
         Thank you,
         Keith Crumbo  

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Keith
A pretty good description but "there are missing pieces" gives me pause.
Please explain what you mean. The first picture shows a complete rod, and then you  say "rod does not seem to have used much if at all" which seems to me to be a contradiction.
1890 - 91 seems to be the date of the rod according to a database that I have verified a few times. It seems to be the first year they made rods. So we should think museum or collector, not fishermen.
The multiple decorative "intermediate" thread wraps indicate the use of animal glue which was discontinued by almost all makers by the 1930s. So that supports my database of serial numbers.
And so it is a little bit early for my knowledge and experience, but I know a guy,  send the question to my rod history friend the Gnomme aka Jeff Hatton (gnomishrodworks@tds.net) author of Rod Crafting A Full-Color Pictorial & Written History from 1843-1960
Jeffrey L. Hatton Softbound: 305 pp. Frank Amato Publications, $45
ISBN 1-57188-356-8, tell him Mac from Denver sent you.


Good Luck,
Mac
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I can answer questions on graphite fly rod building and bamboo rod restoration and making. I can guide people to restorers . I can guide people to rod building components on the internet as well as catalog. I can help them identify and value their bamboo fly rods with a picture .

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please give a complete description send pictures especially labels or logos with detailed thorough description** to me macsrods@yahoo.com and a complete including as much the following as you can: Is it? fly or casting rod ? Reel seat is below or above the cork handle ? Check metal for id and patents ? What is it made of; bamboo ( flat sided) fiberglass or graphite ( round)? Weight in oz? What is the diameter of the rod above the cork? Where was it purchased ? What type of metal nickel-silver, tin, or chrome platted brass? A complete description of any logos or labels. Length of rod per section and number of sections. Total rod length.

Please read the following if the rod has either of the following two labels

Montague or H-I (Horrocks-Ibbotson).

They are looked down upon by the collecting community and often they are justified. They were mass produced , rather heavy and very slow. They are not going to resale for very much.

Two books are available at larger libraries to get history and or value:
Antique & Collectable Fishing Rods: Identification & Value Guide Homel, Dan. 1997
Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook -Michael Sinclair

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Because of my knowledge I can help you sell and get a good price for your vintage bamboo fly rod. email email Mac

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I have been restoring bamboo fly rods for 15 years and making graphite for 17 .

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**example of a thorough description of a label: The Shakespeare decal is olive green ovals with gold foil banner bearing the word "Shakespeare" in script. The remainder of the of the lettering is block style reading on top Honor Built and on the bottom of oval , Made in USA. The writing is away from the grip.



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