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Dear Mac - We found an EF Payne 3 pc , 8.5 ft ,  4 5/8oz.   model #250 in my dad's basement, in highland mills, ny.. and appears to have a spare tip as well.. It appears to be in good condition.. any thoughts on the possible value?

thanks for your time
Carlos

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Carlos,          
Payne rods are very valuable. They were great rod makers, EF and Jim.
History of EF Payne;
http://home.myfairpoint.net/and96jac/fishnbanjossliceoflifeincyberspacecopy/id25
Price Book:
Antique & Collectible  Fishing Rods: Identification & Value Guide by Homel, Dan. 1997 (2nd edition 2000) add about 30% for age of book.

No 250 in Homel nor the history page, perhaps it  is 205?
Homel gives the "Payne Model 205" 8 1/2' fly rod with an extra tip, 3 sections the  value of  $350, 950 and $1900  for poor, good, and excellent condition respectively.

Last time I had a Payne rod, the owner asked if he should sell it for $500. He sent it to me and I got him $1000 more.

Luck,
Mac

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I can answer questions on graphite fly rod building and bamboo rod restoration and making. I can guide people to restorers . I can guide people to rod building components on the internet as well as catalog. I can help them identify and value their bamboo fly rods with a picture .

If you are asking for the id of an old rod

please give a complete description send pictures especially labels or logos with detailed thorough description** to me macsrods@yahoo.com and a complete including as much the following as you can: Is it? fly or casting rod ? Reel seat is below or above the cork handle ? Check metal for id and patents ? What is it made of; bamboo ( flat sided) fiberglass or graphite ( round)? Weight in oz? What is the diameter of the rod above the cork? Where was it purchased ? What type of metal nickel-silver, tin, or chrome platted brass? A complete description of any logos or labels. Length of rod per section and number of sections. Total rod length.

Please read the following if the rod has either of the following two labels

Montague or H-I (Horrocks-Ibbotson).

They are looked down upon by the collecting community and often they are justified. They were mass produced , rather heavy and very slow. They are not going to resale for very much.

Two books are available at larger libraries to get history and or value:
Antique & Collectable Fishing Rods: Identification & Value Guide Homel, Dan. 1997
Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook -Michael Sinclair

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I have been restoring bamboo fly rods for 15 years and making graphite for 17 .

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**example of a thorough description of a label: The Shakespeare decal is olive green ovals with gold foil banner bearing the word "Shakespeare" in script. The remainder of the of the lettering is block style reading on top Honor Built and on the bottom of oval , Made in USA. The writing is away from the grip.



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