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Hello Rich,
I have an Orvis Battenkill deluxe 6 1/2 foot impregnated fly rod,2 pc. 11. that was given to my Dad by his uncle many years ago. Our uncle loved to buy fishing and hunting equipment and never use them. This bamboo rod has honestly never been fished with. It came in a black aluminum tube. The weight is 2 oz., has two tips,a plaid cotton sleeve with a tie wrap, and a green and white label on the tube. Serial # 19049. I have been trying to find it online, but had no luck.I would appreciate any info you could provide. Let me know if you need anything else from me.
Sincerely, Mark DelMastro

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Mark,

Your rod was made by a very reputable company called Orvis - in business since before the Civil War. They are still in business and you can read about their bamboo rods at:
http://www.orvis.com/intro.aspx?dir_id=758&subject=447

Price book: Antique & Collectable Fishing Rods: Identification & Value Guide Homel, Dan. 1997 (2nd edition 2000) add about 30% for age of book.

Homel gives the 6 1/2 foot Battenkill fly rod 6 1/2',  2 sections with an extra tip,  150, 325, and 600 for poor, good, and excellent condition respectively. I bet I could get at least 750 for it.

I have a database from the Internet that has been confirmed by phone calls to Orvis and my experience. 19049 should be on the rod or my details are wrong. You were not specific as to the information on the rod or the tube.

number   date   style         length   ounces   pieces   notes
19049   4/11/56   Deluxe - 11/64 ferrules   6 1/2   2   2   Built by George Reid and Cal Skinner   

If you call Orvis 888-235-9763, they have a non digital , paper source with more complete serial numbers.  If you ask for a value they will put you off to professional evaluators but if you ask for age and maker, then you will get some help. Batenkill is your model name. But we have that information from the database , so calling would only be a confirmation.

Never been used means the  cork handles are very clean looking , blond maybe but not dark from human handling. I would like to share my experience with you , almost all the people who ask me about fly rods on this web site and have a maker, tell me their rods are in excellent , mint and even un used condition, very few are correct. I am sure people are being mostly honest , I believe it is a lack of experience , I mean how many brand new bamboo fly rods have you seen?

Condition is not guessing or subjective. I recommend finding Homel at the library and seeing his complete set of criteria for various conditions.

Luck,
Mac

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I can answer questions on graphite fly rod building and bamboo rod restoration and making. I can guide people to restorers . I can guide people to rod building components on the internet as well as catalog. I can help them identify and value their bamboo fly rods with a picture .

If you are asking for the id of an old rod

please give a complete description send pictures especially labels or logos with detailed thorough description** to me macsrods@yahoo.com and a complete including as much the following as you can: Is it? fly or casting rod ? Reel seat is below or above the cork handle ? Check metal for id and patents ? What is it made of; bamboo ( flat sided) fiberglass or graphite ( round)? Weight in oz? What is the diameter of the rod above the cork? Where was it purchased ? What type of metal nickel-silver, tin, or chrome platted brass? A complete description of any logos or labels. Length of rod per section and number of sections. Total rod length.

Please read the following if the rod has either of the following two labels

Montague or H-I (Horrocks-Ibbotson).

They are looked down upon by the collecting community and often they are justified. They were mass produced , rather heavy and very slow. They are not going to resale for very much.

Two books are available at larger libraries to get history and or value:
Antique & Collectable Fishing Rods: Identification & Value Guide Homel, Dan. 1997
Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook -Michael Sinclair

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Because of my knowledge I can help you sell and get a good price for your vintage bamboo fly rod. email email Mac

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I have been restoring bamboo fly rods for 15 years and making graphite for 17 .

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**example of a thorough description of a label: The Shakespeare decal is olive green ovals with gold foil banner bearing the word "Shakespeare" in script. The remainder of the of the lettering is block style reading on top Honor Built and on the bottom of oval , Made in USA. The writing is away from the grip.



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