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Hi Mac!

I have an 8', 3/2 Phillipson Peerless Impregnated cane rod, which I purchased from South Creek Ltd in Feb. 2011. I'm currently unemployed and need to sell, so I'm hoping you can help me determine the current value. I don't know the actual weight in ounces, I have been using 5 weight line. Torpedo grip. Down-locking aluminum copper reel seat with green thread wraps. Nickel silver ferrules and snake guides. The diameter above the cork is 1.25 inches. All sections measured 32.5 inches. Very well cared for with the two noted exceptions: missing hook keeper, and a minute piece of cork chipped off. The markings are faded to almost unrecognizable. Signed by Bill Phillipson, which is easily seen, and what appears to be "impregnated" is faded quite a bit. I wanted to attach more than two photos, but apparently that's all we're allowed to provide. Thanks for any help you can provide!

Rodney Rice

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Rodney,
Rob,
Bill Phillipson made rods in Denver, CO. Bill P. made good rods.

Books:
Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook by Michael Sinclair  has history of bamboo rods made by Phillipson. Probably at your local library.

Article on Phillipson Rod Co history:
http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rod.

More history :
http://home.myfairpoint.net/and96jac/fishnbanjossliceoflifeincyberspacecopy/id20

Price Book:
Antique & Collectable Fishing Rods: Identification & Value Guide Homel, Dan. 1997 (2nd edition 2000) add about 30% for age of book
Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook -Michael Sinclair

Homel gives the 8 ft Phillipson model "Peerless" impregnated  pack fly rod with an extra tip, 3 sections a value of  $95, 275 and $485 for poor, good, excellent condition respectively.

Before you sell it , get a weight, my guess is heavy like 12 ounces , which means a lower resale price.

Condition impacts bamboo fly rods drastically. I see a loss of finish on the flat below B.Pillipsons name. AT best your rod is in good but more likely poor so maybe 150. More if  you have a good write up and sell on line. I sell write ups for $10 macsrods@yahoo.com If I sold this rod I think I could get $300

Luck,
Mac

Please provide feedback, nominations are appreciated.  

Looking at the feedback where you say you were told it was worth $600 and $800 they obviously did not see the picture of the writing which is fading. Let's just apply some common sense, How can writing be coming off but not the finish which is on top of it? I really do wish you luck , you have completely over evaluated your rod. I see it all the time. I would love to hear back from you after the sale, with the name and contact information of the buyer. You should know I have  been confirmed over and over that people who don't restore or build rods all of them think their rods are in excellent condition, very few are correct.

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I can answer questions on graphite fly rod building and bamboo rod restoration and making. I can guide people to restorers . I can guide people to rod building components on the internet as well as catalog. I can help them identify and value their bamboo fly rods with a picture .

If you are asking for the id of an old rod

please give a complete description send pictures especially labels or logos with detailed thorough description** to me macsrods@yahoo.com and a complete including as much the following as you can: Is it? fly or casting rod ? Reel seat is below or above the cork handle ? Check metal for id and patents ? What is it made of; bamboo ( flat sided) fiberglass or graphite ( round)? Weight in oz? What is the diameter of the rod above the cork? Where was it purchased ? What type of metal nickel-silver, tin, or chrome platted brass? A complete description of any logos or labels. Length of rod per section and number of sections. Total rod length.

Please read the following if the rod has either of the following two labels

Montague or H-I (Horrocks-Ibbotson).

They are looked down upon by the collecting community and often they are justified. They were mass produced , rather heavy and very slow. They are not going to resale for very much.

Two books are available at larger libraries to get history and or value:
Antique & Collectable Fishing Rods: Identification & Value Guide Homel, Dan. 1997
Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook -Michael Sinclair

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Because of my knowledge I can help you sell and get a good price for your vintage bamboo fly rod. email email Mac

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I have been restoring bamboo fly rods for 15 years and making graphite for 17 .

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**example of a thorough description of a label: The Shakespeare decal is olive green ovals with gold foil banner bearing the word "Shakespeare" in script. The remainder of the of the lettering is block style reading on top Honor Built and on the bottom of oval , Made in USA. The writing is away from the grip.



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