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I have a Divine 9'7" bamboo rod with the number I9580 on the butt great shape also have a south bend 47-9' H C H or C bamboo rod that is also in great shape both have the cloth case and metal case. These have not been used in over 60 years. what are they worth and where should I market them?
Thank You for your time
Jon Hill

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Jon,
FYI - no one tells me their rod is in anything but great or mint condition. When I have investigated I find very few re correct.

The South Bend:
The model #47 appeared in the latter 1930s and continued into the 1950s.  If it  has the "Comficient" cork grip, thumb rest, it is from the 1940s-1950s.  It is a nine foot rod.  HCH or C is line weight. This is a heavier bass rod , 7 weight in modern terms.

Each South Bend rod was made in three actions; Wet Fly or Trout Action, Bass Action, and Dry Fly Action. The model number refers to the rod's grade, or quality and the series number represents the action. For example, #147 is Trout Action, #47 is Bass Action, and #347 is Dry Fly Action. All of these Model 47 rods have the same wraps, hardware and other specifications -only the taper is different. Your rod model, Bass Action is less desirable.

Books you can find at your local library:
Antique & Collectible  Fishing Rods: Identification & Value Guide Homel, Dan. 1997 #2nd edition 2000# add about 30% for age of book.
Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook by Michael Sinclair #dates and models#

Homel gives the South Bend 9'  model "Model #47" fly rod   with an extra tip, 3 sections the  value of  $35, 80 and $150 for poor, good, and excellent condition respectively.
History:
http://fishnbanjosplace.yuku.com/topic/9/History-and-value-of-South-Bend-Rods#.U

I hope you mean  Devine not Divine.
I am assuming your rod is a fly rod , reel below handle and bamboo with flat sides not round.
Serial number of I is 1923.
The special is not mentioned in Homel but gives a same length , 3 section similar rod the  value of  $50, 145 and $275 for poor, good, and excellent condition respectively. I sold a similar Divine 2 years ago for $300.


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Mac

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I can answer questions on graphite fly rod building and bamboo rod restoration and making. I can guide people to restorers . I can guide people to rod building components on the internet as well as catalog. I can help them identify and value their bamboo fly rods with a picture .

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please give a complete description send pictures especially labels or logos with detailed thorough description** to me macsrods@yahoo.com and a complete including as much the following as you can: Is it? fly or casting rod ? Reel seat is below or above the cork handle ? Check metal for id and patents ? What is it made of; bamboo ( flat sided) fiberglass or graphite ( round)? Weight in oz? What is the diameter of the rod above the cork? Where was it purchased ? What type of metal nickel-silver, tin, or chrome platted brass? A complete description of any logos or labels. Length of rod per section and number of sections. Total rod length.

Please read the following if the rod has either of the following two labels

Montague or H-I (Horrocks-Ibbotson).

They are looked down upon by the collecting community and often they are justified. They were mass produced , rather heavy and very slow. They are not going to resale for very much.

Two books are available at larger libraries to get history and or value:
Antique & Collectable Fishing Rods: Identification & Value Guide Homel, Dan. 1997
Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook -Michael Sinclair

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**example of a thorough description of a label: The Shakespeare decal is olive green ovals with gold foil banner bearing the word "Shakespeare" in script. The remainder of the of the lettering is block style reading on top Honor Built and on the bottom of oval , Made in USA. The writing is away from the grip.



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