AboutVictor Winnek Expertise I answer questions related to: Football Officiating; NCAA & Federation Rules; History of Football; Football Officiating - Mechanics (2,3,4,5,7 man); NCAA Rules; High School Rules; Player Safety, Issues of liability arising from injuries, workers compensation, discrimination of officials; History of the Game.Instructor of officials.
I do not answer questions as to what position a person should play or what their chances are ...
Experience 22 years officiating High School & College football, NCAA Referee, Line Judge, Head Linesman; 2 years Arena Football-substitution official; Instructor of NCAA & Federation Officials, Member of the Board of Directors CFOA-Long Beach & South Bay Units, Pres. of Executive Council of Calif. Football Officials Assoc.; CIF Presidents' Council on Officiating; Chairman of the Officiating Ethics Committee; Played prep & college football; coached High School football; Athletic trainer
Organizations President of Calif. Football Officials Assoc.; Western Collegiate Football Officials Assoc.; CFOA-Long Beach Unit
Publications Referee Magazine; California Football Officials Assoc. Instructor's Guide; NCAA Div. 1-AA football officials clinic; CFOA instrutional materials; UWLA Law Review
Education/Credentials BA USC 1987
JD UWLA School of Law 1996
3 Years Reno Football Officials Clinic
Big 12 Mini Clinic
4 Years UCLA Football Officials Camp
22 years of instruction in Officiating Football
Awards and Honors 5 Bowl games, NCAA Div. 1-AA; CIF State Championship, 6 years CIF Finals, 9 years CIF Semi-finals, 16 years of CIF play-offs.
I will not dignify rude or disparaging comments with a response. I also will not entertain questions that use profanity. Football officials don't seek to “screw” any team Such an insinuation is ridiculous and ludicrous.
Question Holder for the field goal kicker receives the snap, and while knee is still on ground, flips the ball backwards to the kicker who runs in for a TD. Should the play be whistled dead at the point his knee was on the ground when he flipped the ball backwards?
Answer Hi Brian
Thanks for your question. There is an exception under the NCAA rules concerning a downed player (dead ball). The holder may when in a kick formation with a player in position to kick the ball may receive a snap and either hold the ball for the place kick, pass or hand off from a kneeling position or get up and run. The play is live. There was a controversial play involving LSU over the last couple years but the play was not deemed illegal.
I am not certain that the officials got this correct it may have been a hide out play which is unfair an tactic. There is no way to run a "Hide-out play" legally. I did not see the play live and the crew working the game are top notch officials and I am sure the LJ was watching for illegal substitution or Hide out plays. To truly comment on this play we would need to see the previous play from an angle that shows all the players coming onto the field and going off the field. Rule 9-2-2b governs hide out plays and makes them illegal.
RULE 9 ARTICLE 2. UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT FOULS
Unfair Tactics
ARTICLE 2.
b. No simulated replacements or substitutions may be used to confuse opponents. No tactic associated with substitutes or the substitution process may be used to confuse opponents (Rule 3-5-2-e) (A.R. 9-2-2-I- VII).
PENALTY Live-ball foul. 15 yards from the previous spot [S27]. Flagrant offenders shall be disqualified [S47].
