AboutJim Considine Expertise I can answer statistical questions about professional football. I am especially strong on the subject of the Baltimore Colts from 1947 through 1983, Washington Redskins, and the Baltimore Ravens.
My services are best used when an older, obscure question is posed. The newer NFL records are easily accessible through www.NFL.com
I do not appraise memorabilia. I am not an expert on Canadian Football, though I will take a shot at any questions you might
I have a good understanding and recall of the folklore about Baltimore football. Some of this information may be subjective in nature. I will give the best answer possible if this is the case.
Experience I am an NFL Statistician with the Washington Redskins. I grew up during the days of the Baltimore Colts in the 1960's. (Please refer to the movie "Diner" for more information about the Baltimore Colts fans)
Organizations Washington Redskins Statistician, 2005-present
Baltimore Ravens, 1996-2003
Publications The records were used by author Jon Morgan in his book, "Glory For Sale". The records have been part of the Baltimore Ravens Media Guides since their inaugural season in 1996.
I was interviewed for the cover story of The Press Box, a local, monthly sports tabloid newspaper.
http://www.pressboxonline.com/story.cfm?id=5594
Education/Credentials I researched and was able to piece together the statistical history of the AAFC Baltimore Colts 1947-49, and the 1950 NFL Colts. This information was used by The Baltimore Ravens for their 1996 Media Guide. The records were entitled "Baltimore Football Records". It was considered "unofficial" since the AAFC league records were not incorporated with the NFL records when the leagues merged.
The reason that this information was created was due to the fact that the NFL had prohibited the 1996 Baltimore Ravens from bringing the records, colors, and team name from the Cleveland Browns. The Baltimore football records were presented in order to create a frame of reference. The Ravens have kept these records since 1996, adding and amending as the Ravens football team challenge these records.
Awards and Honors I was awarded two game balls from the Ravens and was recognized for my work as the top game day employee.
Past/Present Clients Baltimore Ravens, Wise Guides, Washington Redskins
I realize u are not an expert in sports collectibles but I had to give this question a shot.
Recently my dad passed, going through his house and personal items. I found these small tins with football helmets painted on them, they have the teams older helmet designs. The Colts were included there are 11 of them could they possibly be the original 11 teams of the NFL before there was NFL, were the Colts 1 of the originals ?
My dad was born 1929 his sports collection was not aquired in his adulthood therefore I assume these are old. I was wondering where I can find what the heck these are, age, value, can u point me in the right derection?
Answer Dear Liah,
I would be happy to give you some information mixed with my opinion regarding your trays. I am not an expert in collectibles. However, I appreciate sports collectibles. As a fan, I find your collection interesting. I would proffer a guess that if cleaned up, the trays would attract quite a bit of interest at a yard sale or on a commercial site like eBay. If you do not feel qualified to clean the trays without causing any damage, then sell them as is. A professional might be able to restore them to perfection where you might scratch the finish. I would handle these carefully�You may not be interested in selling them. Preserving them from further degradation will allow you to enjoy them for a long time.
These 11 teams are not the original NFL teams. The NFL was a merry-go-round of franchises for their first ten years. During their second decade, the league grew I popularity. College football was much more popular than the professional league. I liken it to the state of the game of lacrosse nowadays. College lacrosse is much more popular than the professional league today. By their third decade, WWII had begun. By the 1950the NFL was back on track. The popularity of the league has grown steadily since this time.
A couple of clues here will help us narrow the r of issue� the trays. One trip and three clicks on Chris CreamerportsLogos.net http://www.sportslogos.net/index.php gave me the answer. The product line is from the year 1965. The Cleveland Browns helmet displays a logo, which was created in 1965. It was never used. The Browns never wore the on their helmet. The design was retired after one year.
I have good news and bad news.
The Bad news ... the 1965 NFL had 14 teams. You are missing three trays. The missing teams are the Dallas Cowboys, Los Angeles Rams, and Chicago Bears.
The fact that you do not have a complete set gives rise to the thought that these trays were given away as a shopping mium�The Oil companies were famous for doing this. One of the companies might have created an offer whereby a customer could collect a different team �very week with the purchase of eight gallons of gas. I remember when gasoline stations would give away cool stuff. (At this time, I was nine years old in 1965, so take what I consider l�th a grain of salt).
A gallon of gasoline in 1965 cost around 40gallon.
The good news is that if this was a eaway�hen there are probably plenty of folks who are missing a tray or two from their collection. Hence, your trays might be even more valuable if you decide to sell them.
You referred to the tins as ll�It is hard to establish what size that they actually are. If I were to guess, I would assume that you have displayed the tins on a staircase. If that were the case, then the tins would measure 6�6�
My guess is that these items are simply keepsakes. b basements�th bars were the rage back then. Perhaps they were intended for display in your club basement bar.
I started to say that they were coasters, but what coaster is made of metal?
The best place to determine what this item was intended to be used for is to contact a trustworthy appraiser/reseller. You might be able to find a similar item on eBay, which would allow you to see the popularity or value of the item.
Finally, you mentioned that the tins depicted the original design of the helmets. Without going back to the leather football d gear�even out of eleven designs are used as the current helmet design (discounting minor tweaks like the shade of blue used by the current Colts).
Most of the teamelmets have evolved into this design. For example, the Steelers logo was added to their helmet in the mid s. However, because a al appliqu锠was considered expensive then, the Steelers only applied one decal per helmet. This tradition continues to this day.
The Colts original color scheme was silver and green.
I hope this helps you put these eleven keepsakes in perspective while giving you a little information.
Best wishes.
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