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QUESTION: Pourriez-vous me dire, s’il vous plaît, quelle est la différence entre «d’autres» et «des autres» ?

Merci avant votre reponse.

Mes salutations,


ANSWER: Hello Edward,

Difficult question without a context.
D'autres is followed by a noun = d'autres cultures, d'autres pays, d'autres livres (other cultures, other countries, other books)

Des autres = in that case it is a noun.
ce ne sont pas les même, ce sont des autres = these are not the same, there are others;

If you can provide a context, my answer may be more precise. I hope this helps



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QUESTION: First of all I think that you'll find that «d'autres» is not necessarily followed by a noun, in which case «d'autres» is itself a noun or pronoun.

Secondly, I don't think that one would not usually say «Ce ne sont pas des autres» but «Ce ne sont pas d'autres.»

I would translate «Ce ne sont pas des autres» to mean "There are not others of the same kind."

And I would translate «Ce ne sont pas d'autres» as "There are not any others whatsoever."

To put my question in context: If I were in a shoe store and didn't find any shoes on display that I liked, I would ask, «Avez-vous d'autres.»

And if I loaned a friend three books and he returned one, I might ask, «Avez-vous des autres.»  

Can you explain the difference between «d’autres» et «des autres» ?

Hello Edward,

Thank you for giving me a context.
To answer your points :
1. Indeed "d'autres" is not necessarily followed by a noun.
two examples :
Certains pensent que Paul est prétentieux; d'autres, au contraire, le trouvent charmant.
J'ai beaucoup aimé ce film de Woody Allen. En a t-il fait d'autres?

2. Both "ce ne sont pas des autres" et "ce ne sont pas d'autres" sound weird in French without an additional sentence. I think that you should use "il y a" or "il n'y a pas" => il n'y en a pas d'autres comme lui.

3. "avez-vous d'autres?" is not correct. Either you say "Avez-vous d'autres chaussures?" or "En avez-vous d'autres?" - pronoun "en" for shoes.

I hope  this helps


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