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QUESTION: Dear Ted,

By any chance have you ever heard of a RELATIVE DEMONSTRATIVE pronoun?

If so, can you please tell me about such a pronoun.

Thank you,

Rich

ANSWER: Dear Rich:

I don't think the "title" is used very often.

I just went to http://www.google.com and typed in relative demonstrative pronouns.

There are many "hits."

Here is one of them that seems reliable:

http://www.ucalgary.ca/UofC/eduweb/grammar/course/speech/1_2f.htm

Ted

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QUESTION: Dear Ted,

Thank you.  

I followed your instructions,  but I am still having the same problem as before I asked you my question   When searching under “relative demonstrative pronouns” I get a lot of hits for “relative pronouns” and “demonstrative pronouns” as separate categories - but nothing for “relative demonstrative pronouns ” as a single category.
I'm not sure what I am doing wrong.

I am trying to find out if there is a classification known as “relative demonstrative pronouns”.  

I understand that there are “relative” pronouns and “demonstrative” pronouns.

Is there a category of English pronouns know as “relative demonstrative pronouns”.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Rich

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Dear Rich:

I am trying to find out if there is a classification known as “relative
demonstrative pronouns”.  

I understand that there are “relative” pronouns and “demonstrative” pronouns.

Is there a category of English pronouns know as “relative demonstrative
pronouns”.

*** Let me try to clear up the confusion.  There are certain pronouns that are called "relative," and some of the same pronouns are called "demonstrative."  However, these
pronouns cannot be BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.

For example, let's use "that."

THAT DOG is much cuter than all the other dogs.  [THAT is a demonstrative pronoun, pointing out a particular dog.  It appears immediately before the noun it modifies.]

I would like to see the dog THAT is sitting in the window.  [THAT is a relative pronoun, so called because it relates the adjective clause to the noun it modifies, "dog."

The answer to your question is "NO."  There are NO "relative demonstrative pronouns."  Some people call pronouns by that name, because a particular pronoun can serve as either a "demonstrator" or a "relator."  But the pronoun cannot do both jobs at the same time.

Here are some websites that provide information about the two usages.  There are two sites that offer both explanation and quizzes to test yourself.  [I took one of the tests and scored 9 out of 10.  The lesson I learned?  READ THE DIRECTIONS.]

Ted

RELATIVE & DEMONSTRATIVE
http://www.grammaruntied.com/pronouns/pronounquiz1/Iquizprn.html

http://www.phschool.com/atschool/writing_grammar_08/grade8/exercise_bank/chapter

YOU TUBE VIDEOS:  http://www.google.com/#q=grammar+relative+demonstrative+pronoun&hl=en&source=uni

GRAMMAR QUIZZES
http://www.grammaruntied.com/examples/Equizzes.html  

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I am the bibliographic instruction and reference librarian at a public college. Some members of the English department recommend me to their students. I offer assistance in grammar, punctuation, sentence structure, and paragraph development. My master`s thesis concerns William Faulkner`s tragic novels. I formerly taught advanced placement English at two schools in the Philadelphia area.

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