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Specializing in New Goat Owner understanding of goat physiology, goat anatomy, goat care and herd management. *I am not a veterinarian, any advice and information should be verified by your veterinarian before administering to your goats. Note: Keep in mind, the goat expert is volunteering her time to help other goat owners, she also runs her farm with her own herd of 100 goats and may not be at her computer at all hours. Questions are answered as soon as she can possibly read and answer them, usually within 24 hours. (! During times of severe summer weather in the Midwest, I may experience a delay in internet service due to the interference of the satellite reception - but will answer your questions as soon as service is restored. !)

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17 years experience of raising goats and herd management. Active hands on experience with goat herd and research with various Caprine University Research and Extension Centers nationwide. 15 years dedicated to helping other goat breeders/owners with goat anatomy, goat disease and goat health care issues via phone, published goat care articles and internet interaction.

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Topic: Goats



Expert: goatlady
Date: 7/9/2008
Subject: Sudden pot belly goats

Question
Hi, I have 4 goats. I feed them all scrapes from my fresh fruits and vegetables. I was told "Goats can eat anything!" Well a couple days after I fed the goats some corn husks, cantaloupe rinds, a very soft peach, watercress roots, banana skins and cooked corn cobs, Jack, my 1 1/2 year old billy goat (now fixed) grew a huge bloated pot belly and he seems to be ill. He is moping around and he doesn't want to stay around his wife Baby 1 1/2 years old and their two twin girls (Fawn & Mickey) 5 months old. They share there area with 4 sheep, 5 geese, 3 ducks, 6 chickens and 2 great Pyrenees dogs. They were all wormed 2 months ago with this awful purple liquid that the vet gave me. We live in western Kentucky and have not had rain for about 2 weeks so they all have been eating hay and all stock feed since the grass is not growing well. The other 3 goats are starting to show a pot belly, but not showing any illness signs. Do you think the pot belly is from some scrapes I gave them? Are there any vegetables or fruits that you should not feed your goats? Do you know from the info I have given you if there is something else causing the sudden pot belly ( feels like air ) in the tummy? Maybe worms?

Answer
Hi Amy,
First of all you need to massage his  left side  where you feel the air- and  get some baking soda in a teaspoon wet it with some water to make it like toothpaste and give it to him  in his mouth - like you would feed a baby, then rub again his left side up high where the air is. He needs to burp. You also need to get a digital thermometer like people use and take his temperature rectally like you would a child  and see what it is- normal is 101.5 to 103.5. Both higher and lower are not good. This may take an hour to get the gas up.

The hay they are eating needs to be good quality and never ever moldy and they should have as much as they want. The grain needs to be cut back  so they do not eat more than a half cup each and this also cannot be moldy. What breed of goat are they? A pygmy goat looks potbellied naturally. This is my article on bloat and  has photos of a goat who is bloated as well:
http://goat-link.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=81


The purple stuff is called cydectin and it smells like gasoline  sort of and it is not the best choice for deworming.
You need to get Ivomec Plus injectable  and or Valbazen oral white liquid. Read my article on deworming, it explains what to use and how to use it :
http://goat-link.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=58&Itemid=46

All of this being said, is he peeing? watch him carefully to see if he pees a good steady stream. If not, is he kicking at his belly? If he is a wether (castrated male) too much sweet feed can cause urinary calculi where a stone clogs the urethra and prevents the urine from coming out properly, this can be fatal if not  dealt with.
Here is my article on UC:
http://goat-link.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=128

Goats should not eat an fruits with a pit in the center, peaches, plums cherries etc. All the rest of what you  mentioned is fine.
I have a couple of different  articles on my website where you can look up different plants poisonous to goats- look at the left menu for these  links:
http://Goat-Link.com

If he has a high temperature he may have pneumonia. Is he coughing at all or does he have a runny nose at all?  Pneumonia is treated with Tyaln200 ( I use 1cc/25lbs injected SUbQ twice a day) which is an antibiotic  you can get  online from livestock supply houses. The dewormers can be found there as well- if they cannot be found at  the local feed store- a good feed store will carry all of these things.

I have an article on how to give injections:
http://goat-link.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=102


(The general livestock catalogs below each carry similar livestock products.  It is helpful to shop in all of them, as products and prices vary from one to another.)

Jeffers Catalog is similar to that of Omaha in its coverage of livestock supplies, except that it has no prescription section. Its phone # is: 1-800-533-3377. www.jefferslivestock.com.

KV Vet Supply has an extensive offering to meet the needs of livestock owners, as well as owners of small animals, and has a prescription section.  It carries the flotation systems used for running fecals . Its phone # is 1-800-423-8211. www.kvvet.com.

Omaha Vaccine's Professional Producer catalog carries a wide range of livestock supplies, and has a prescription section. Its phone # is: 1-800-367-4444. www.omahavaccine.com.

PBS Livestock Health Catalog is a good source for supplies, and has a prescription section.  Its phone # is 1-800-321-0235. www.pbsanimalhealth.com



Revival Animal Health catalog has the French catheters for tubing kids! Its phone # is 1-800-786-4751. www.revivalanimal.com.

Valley Vet Supply is an additional source of meds and supplies that is worth browsing thru while deciding who has the best buys! Its phone # is 1-800-468-0059. www.valleyvet.com.



Nasco Farm and Ranch catalog is a great source for farm-oriented equipment and supplies, carrying a much wider range than most other catalogs. It's retail, but if you can't find it elsewhere, this is a great place to look. Its phone # is 1-800-558-9595. www.enasco.com

 
Read my website through, it has many good articles to help you with your goats and my site is geared toward new goat owners making it easy to understand.

goatlady
Goat-Link.com


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