Goats/scouring Zee

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QUESTION: Ok Donna Here is my newest problem.  First off, the little doe born a week ago is thriving. She is still indoors w/ us but we are actually loving it.  She is on 4 oz. milk @ every 4 hours.  Not sure if this is right but u can let me know.  

Now on to the main reason I emailed.  Baby Zee and his brother Chester were born Nov. 20, 2012.  So they are about 7 weeks.  I noticed this morning Zee was scouring.  I did drop his midday bottle and only give 2.  And w/ that I added 2 ounces to both of those bottles making him get 11 ounces 2 x day.  I thought that was the culprit and went ahead and gave him Sulmet and a little pepto.   In the meantine I saw that Chester is scouring also. He is still nursing and I have done nothing new w/ him.  They both are very active and huge. They have full access to hay and occasionally a little grain but not much at all.  Is there anyway they could be wormy??  They are in w/ the older goats but I have no problem with the older ones.  If they are wormy are they to young to treat??  Thank you in advance

ANSWER: Thanks for the update.  Re the little doeling, sounds like a good amount, you can increase 1/2 ounce whenever she seems to be still hungry and her tummy is not distended from eating after finishig the 4 ounces.  

What color is the diarrhea? Brown indicates an infection or just digestive upset (from the change in feeding regimen).  Yellow is enterotoxemia.  Green is coccidiosis, White/cream is E. coli.  Let me know what color and we'll get a remedy going.  Sulmet and pepto are always great to start on no matter what.  Generally you do not treat for worms (huge abdomen) until they are at least 2 months old.  Is Zee eating anything else besides the bottle?  Is the little guy outside eating anything more than just from his mom?  

Let me know - Donna   

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QUESTION: Ok the poop is like a dark brown ( not quite black) They both run in the lot with their mom and the other does. They both have full access to hay and water. I only give them grain every couple days at this point.  What are u meaning by (Huge abdomen)  They are very healthy looking and they do have a fat belly.  

Now I do have the bottle calf still in w/ them and noticed yesterday that she was scouring. It is almost more of a dark green so I really do not think it is the same.  I also had to switch her milk yesterday which I think is why she scoured.

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Thanks for the update.  Sounds lik this could either be a digestive or bacterial scouring of all three - would keep up on the Sulmet (calf included) and probiotics (powder or yogurt).  Re grain kid goats under 2to 3 months old should not really have any grain but a calf manna as other grains are dfficult for their developing rumens to work with and can cause diarrhea.  Would go with the Sulmet for 5 days along with probiotics and pepto bismol for all.  Re a fat abdomen - when you look at a kid goat who has not eaten it's bottle yet you should see a slimmer kid goat - no belly - then afterwards a belly comes about from drinking of the milk.  As in puppies and kittens when yousee a fat tummy all the time that usually indicates worms.  Would hold off on worming until a least 2 months old and then use of Safeguard horse wormer paste works well at 1/2 inch orally for kid goats.  Hope this helps - let me know - Donna

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Donna Ruelas-Semasko/Edelweiss Acres

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All goat health care, nutrition, judging questions about all goats - packgoats, dairy goats, pygmy goats, meat goats, fleece goats.

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27 years health care/nutrition of all types of goats, 17 years experience in packgoats, 20 years experience in 4H goat projects as leader, superintendent and judge. 20 years experience in putting on goat care/nutrition seminars.

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NAPgA, The Evergreen Packgoat Club, 4H, ADGA.

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Hobby Farm, many newspapers, 4H newsletters, Packgoat Manuals (youth and general), judging information pamphlets, seminar handouts about health care and nutrition.

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4 years of college, ongoing education in goats.

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Small Farm Award of Thurston County

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