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QUESTION: Hi Donna , Maple doesn't seem to be improving , at times seems she is , but others not at all . Started the antibiotics , the la pen . Just to get some nourishment in her the last 3 days I've give her raw goats milk at about a cup and a half twice daily . HER TEMP IS 99.1 . Gave her probiotics . As of late i noticed she is yawning , like trying to get a big gulp of air , reminds me of my asthma as i do this periodically . I hate to say it but i believe this is a loosing battle and am inclined to put her down , and if she were in pain i would not hesitate . My problem is she goes to the hay and the feed and wants to eat but won't or can't . Seems like someone with canser , to bad there isn't a steroid for goats . A kind old lady , has told me instead of the milk because of her age i should give her whey , as the milk may cause acidosis , Is this what i should be giving ? Thanks . By the way this has been progressively getting worse for the past 8 weeks , with little or no improvement . I also am still giving probiotics vit B , and E .

ANSWER: So have you ever tried the real penicillin?? The LA 200 is not a penicillin so is that what you have her on now?  The penicillin is the true test of being able to see if we can get her better - 3 cc/100 pounds twice a day for 7 days.  Must be intramuscular.  If you want to do subcu then you must double or triple the amount.  Old wives tale about milk causing acidosis - whey is just intensified milk protein.  Would go with a different and heavier duty antibiotic.  Let me know - Donna

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QUESTION: Hi Donna , you won't believe this , but Maple since this early afternoon has done a complete turn around . She is eating hay like shes never had it before , I even stayed with her for a good half hour and she eat all that time , shes eating her grain , and when i went in tonight with her milk , which still has closterum in it , before i could get the drencher ready she had her head in the container and drank the works of it . I'm not sure what combination of things i did that turned this around , but i know theres only one thing i added , and that was a zantac . I do have the regular pen , but with the improvement , I'm not sure if we should change it , but if you think its best i will as I trust your expertise and judgement . Let me know . Thanks for your help , looks like this girl may make it after all , been a long downward battle and its one I'm glad , for her and me , may finally be over . Also I'm going to continue the milk and vitamins as long as she wants it .

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Thanks for the update - again the kitchen sink method wins! - nice job - sometimes you just have to keep at it and add what you feel might help - and you have done all that - I agree with not changing to penicillin - keeping her on the regimen you currently have her on including the zantac for another 5 days with her being good still at the end of that time period would be my advice - so good to hear.  And, yes, whatever you want to give her nutritionally is fine.  Donna

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Donna Ruelas-Semasko/Edelweiss Acres

Expertise

All goat health care, nutrition, judging questions about all goats - packgoats, dairy goats, pygmy goats, meat goats, fleece goats.

Experience

27 years health care/nutrition of all types of goats, 17 years experience in packgoats, 20 years experience in 4H goat projects as leader, superintendent and judge. 20 years experience in putting on goat care/nutrition seminars.

Organizations
NAPgA, The Evergreen Packgoat Club, 4H, ADGA.

Publications
Hobby Farm, many newspapers, 4H newsletters, Packgoat Manuals (youth and general), judging information pamphlets, seminar handouts about health care and nutrition.

Education/Credentials
4 years of college, ongoing education in goats.

Awards and Honors
Small Farm Award of Thurston County

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