Goats/Old Buck


QUESTION: Hi Donna , I have an old (10) year old Lamancha Buck , has been healthy up to now , and has been wormed . I think the old guy may have had a heart attack . I probly shouldn't have but I put a young 3 year old doe with him and he's been chasing her for a few days , came home tonight and he is down , ears are down , and a lot of mucus running from his nose , and in these last couple hours raddling in his chest . I have not ruled out pneumonia , but hasn't shown any signs of distress till today eating fine . Don't know , guess the doe may have been to much for him , any ideas ? I'm not going to put a lot into this fellow , will continue the pen if he is still alive morning , and try to make him comfortable . He's lived a long time for a buck . The old fellow who gave him to me is almost as ancient as the goat . LOL .
     RE: Fuzzy Face , has improved a lot still off her front legs but I have been working with her standing and massaging them . She is trying now to stand on her own , poops are normal , eating like a horse . She had her 4th selenium dosage last night .

ANSWER: Hi there - sounds like stress has caused pneumonia.  Would start him on penicillin and probiotics.  One of my bucks is going on 14, still serviced 5 does this last breeding season.  Every buck is different in old age, and anything over 10 years is a good age for a working buck.  

Re Fuzzy Face, glad she seems better.  Did you give the selenium intramuscularly?  I really like the oral selenium/E/D all at once as they seem to have a quicker response, but if she is going along improving then you could give the dosing again day 7 and 10 from the first dosing.  She may need double the dose of vitamin D to help get the selenium working.  Hope this helps - thanks always for the updates - Donna

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QUESTION: Hi Donna , gave him 6cc fast acting pen a few hours ago , and just checked on him . His breathing is really laboured now , and I don't expect him to make it , a shame really , beautiful old fellow . I think he did manage to breed the doe though . He's a big boy I hope I gave enough pen , around 175 lb or more . Thanks for your help .

ANSWER: 6 cc sounds good (3 cc per 100 pounds body weight) - well, if he does go sounds like he could have left a good legacy - maybe you'll get a nice buckling from the doe.  Donna

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QUESTION: Hi Donna , the old fellow passed last night , as I expected . Seen this before , pneumonia acts so fast in goats , how do you ever catch it ?
   RE: Fuzzy Face is stronger and still eating , but I noticed she has a little congestion , which she was able to clear with a couple little coughs . I've learned not to take this lightly especially where she was so sick . I have a needle of pen ready at 3 cc is this amount ok for her first shot and perhaps 2 cc twice a day after this . She's still on vitamins and always probiotics . She's come to far to lose her to pneumonia , but this is always a possibility in times of stress , and the weather has changed a bit cooler at night now . Thanks .

Sorry to hear about the old guy.  But we all know it can happen.  Re the Fuzzy Face I would go with the 3 cc as a first dose and then 1.5 to 2 cc twice a day after this.  

Re catching pneumonia, if a goat seems depressed/down/slow/not eating as they normally do or just not acting as they normally do, I immediately start them on penicillin - I don't wait for other symptoms - a vet would say this is wrong but when I start them early usually it is a good end result.  Even with kid goats who may be a few days old and they look like something is wrong but there are no other symptoms to point me to another illness I start them on penicillin.  One time when we went on a short few day vacation/hike, I had a gal caring for the goats and she had goats of her own and I trusted her - when I came home she was still out feeding and I always check the goats out as soon as I get home.  I looked out into one field and saw one of my does who just did not look herself - I said to the gal that the doe looked like she had a fever - indeed when we checked her temp it was 105 - so penicillin started and she did great.  

Hope this helps - Donna


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Donna Ruelas-Semasko/Edelweiss Acres


All goat health care, nutrition, judging questions about all goats - packgoats, dairy goats, pygmy goats, meat goats, fleece goats.


27 years health care/nutrition of all types of goats, 17 years experience in packgoats, 20 years experience in 4H goat projects as leader, superintendent and judge. 20 years experience in putting on goat care/nutrition seminars.

NAPgA, The Evergreen Packgoat Club, 4H, ADGA.

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4 years of college, ongoing education in goats.

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Small Farm Award of Thurston County

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