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QUESTION: Goatlady, I and my Great Pyrenees took my goats up the mountain as per usual and noticed while walking behind Juanita that she had a long string of slimy brownish red discharge hanging from her vagina. If you can imagine an 8-inch transparent worm of color, that's what it looked like. I removed it with a gloved hand and came home with it (glove is now in the washing machine). It was hard to get off the glove, a very sticky mucous. I can't get anything analyzed in a lab today--it's Saturday. But what in the world could this be, and what in the world do I do to get rid of it? The only time I've seen anything remotely like this was in a goat's afterbirth discharge, and these girls definitely have not given birth.

Both goats continue to eat well and drink well. They continual-squat-and-pee problem seems to be a little better.

The mucous thing may have been going on from the beginning; their rear ends definitely look less than tidy and have from the beginning.

Please help if you can. I've had goats for a decade, but this stumps me entirely.

Thanks so much for any guidance.

ANSWER: HI Jancie,
I don't suppose you thought to take a photo of it did you? if so can you send it here?  Are you SURE it was not a tape worm coming from the rectum? Are you SURE she is not bred and this is the mucus plug before labor?
Will wait to hear back

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QUESTION: Absolutely positive on both scores. I scraped the mucus off the glove and put it as a lump in a shallow can. It's now a mostly translucent brown-red gel-like substance that appears to have flattened as much as it's going to. It doesn't run when I tilt the can, and it appears to have blood clots in it. Smells terrible, and I say that as someone who is highly tolerant of the usual animal smells.

Do you still want a photo? I'll hunt down my digital camera (cell phones don't work in the remote area where I live, so I don't have a camera attached to a phone).

One thing, and I don't think there's any connection, but I'll offer it anyway: I dewormed with Valbazen about a week before all this started. I usually use Valbazen or Ivomec Plus. I've never had a bad reaction to either, however. And as I said, these are the only two goats afflicted with whatever-this-is.

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HI Janice..
These are the same girls with the suspected UTI? The thing that bothers me most is the smell..  I KNOW you don't trust vets.. (So do I for the most part) BUT is there Any chance you can call around  outside of town  to see if any vets are familiar with goats?  Don;t throw that thing away..  I would be taking a urine sample and this  thing to a vet to be looked at  and have a complete urinalysis done.. I am all for treating at home but when things are just weird..  and  I cannot figure things out.. and it is something that Can be tested  (UA)  I think I would opt for it..  having this thing smell like this is not good..
HOW Long ago were these girls ever pregnant? I am wondering if this could be  some retained placentas from a kidding even years ago.. or a partially reabsorbed  fetus.. ??

Yes I'd like to see a picture..


NOW valbazen Will dispell tape worms and they are NASTY.. Ivomec  or Ivomec PLUS will not.. this is a photo of a goat passing a tapeworm.. http://i1.wp.com/listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/617428092_c85eb7ba3d-t

Look forward to hearing back and seeing pic  

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Specializing in New Goat Owner understanding of goat physiology, goat anatomy, goat care and herd management. *I am not a veterinarian, any advice and information should be verified by your veterinarian before administering to your goats. (! During times of severe weather in the Midwest, I may experience a delay in internet service due to the interference of the satellite reception - but will answer your questions as soon as service is restored. !) Note: Keep in mind, the goat expert is volunteering her time to help other goat owners, she also runs her farm with her own herd of 100 goats and may not be at her computer at all hours. Questions are answered as soon as she can possibly read and answer them, usually within 24 hours.

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