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Greek/Doric Greek Translation Tattoo


QUESTION: Hey there Michael,
I'm looking to get a tattoo sleeve soon dedicated to my Greek heritage and I can't trust any Google translator so hopefully you can help me out!

I want to get a Spartan helmet with the old saying "Return with your shield or on it" in the same Doric Greek Spartan mothers would have used. I know the quote isn't exactly word for word, but I would like to have this version.

I also want to get some single word translations for a Cerberus tattoo if you can:

Lastly I want to get a portrait of a gorgeous version of Stheno with a quote about lust being bad and deceitful.
If you know of any Greek quotes that you think would fit with this idea then please let me know!!

I greatly appreciate your time!
Thank you very much!

ANSWER: Hello Scott,

thank you for your question. I got your point. The version you prefer would be:

σὺν ἀσπίδ' ὑπόστρεφ' ἤ ἐπὶ τᾶς / ΣΥΝ ΑΣΠΙΔ' ΥΠΟΣΤΡΕΦ' Η ΕΠΙ ΤΑΣ

The other words would be:
wrath = μῆνις (Doric: μᾶνις)
lust = ἵμερος
envy = φθόνος

For Sthneno's character I suggest the following quote of the philosopher Antisthenes (I just noticed the funny coincidence, where to Stheno [=power] fits something from Anti-sthenes [anti-power]):

"ὥσπερ ὑπὸ τοῦ ἰοῦ τὸν σίδηρον, οὕτως τοὺς φθονεροὺς ὑπὸ τοῦ ἰδίου ἤθους κατεσθίονται"

Which translates: "as iron is eaten ("devoured") by rust, so are the envious by their own character"

Let me know if I can be of further assistance. Have a good day.


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QUESTION: Wow you truly answered my question better than I ever expected!!

I only need one more word translated:

And I like the quote, but I would rather have something with lust rather than envy.
I do like the part of iron being eaten by rust because it really fits with the Stheno idea, but I want to incorporate lust in there somewhere.

Thank you again so much for your time.

Sure, no problem. For "fear" there are several words. Consider the following:

religious fear/fear for God = δέος [awe]
psychological (inner) or mind fear = φόβος [intense worry/fear]
physical fear (in the real world) = δειλία [cowardice]

Have a good day.



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I provide assistance in linguistic, literary topics of Greek and Latin covering, thus, the following fields: translation, grammar, syntax, vocabulary, etymology, morphology, semantics and interpretations etc.


Studies: University of the Aegean, Dept Rhodes Friedrich Wilhelm Universitšt Bonn

Magister Artium (Archeology/Linguistics) Bachelor (Latin/English/Greek)

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