Guitar - General/Value of 1973 Garcia Classical Guitar
c wrote at 2008-07-11 11:56:43
Actually I have a very similar story,.. but my Garcia 1A around 1973 as well, I used it for high school level recitals, went through classical guitar studies in college with it until I laid my hands on an instrument that was far superior. My particular guitar is in immaculate condition, no dings or scratches anywhere,.. but based on where guitar construction technique has gone,.. and more efficient factory methods ( these are factory made instruments in Japan ) I would value my instrument around $ 150 max. Today for 2 or $ 300 one can get a far superior sounding and playing guitar than the Garcia 1A. But that's true for a Ramirez 1A as well. Back then the Ramirez were selling for approx 2500 to maybe 3000,.... I believe? Today one can get a $3000 guitar that sounds and plays much better than a Ram 1A. Thats progress in the area of guitar buidling, design, and innovations. They are still nice guitars,.. for me,.. I wouldn't sell it even if someone were to give me $ 2000 for it. It's priceless to me,.. it was my first classical, I spent countless hours with it,.. it's a friend, .. and still play it every now and then,.. so,..just consider what you have,.. it's a bit of history for you, it's probably not wourth selling it,.. you will be sorry you did. Hope this helps.
rob wrote at 2009-03-10 17:49:53
hi all, there seems to be only speculation to the quality of these guitars, who is to say that the people assembling these guitars had or didn't have equal talent- perhaps better! ramarez farms out some of their models. cheers
Megan Hoyt wrote at 2009-06-15 23:24:28
It doesn't help your cause any, but I just picked up a 1973 Garcia from a Goodwill store for $25 and once home I discovered exactly what you did -- its exceptional quality! I was astounded. I like it better than my other two guitars and my son's Takamine put together. So enjoy it for 35 more years!
krm27 wrote at 2012-03-01 23:50:51
As a follow up, I recently purchased a 1970 Garcia No. 1 guitar from a pawn shop for about $200, with case (nice plum-colored fur lining, but very weathered on outside). Before buying, I read about the Garcia / Sherry fraud-source issue, and was on the fence about it, but I tried the guitar and the tone was great, to my ear at least.
The guitar itself is in very nice condition for being 42 years old. I am a relative beginner, but I tried a couple guitars from a local music store, Jasmine by Takamine listed at $250 (I think it lists under $200 online), and a very distressed looking Harmony model listed at $166, and then I went to the pawn shop and tried the Garcia No. 1. The Jasmine was by far the worst, shallow tone, lots of fret buzz, ugly light yellow color (I like the richer, darker wood tones) - even open strings were buzzy. The Harmony seemed okay, nice rich tone, but very distressed, wood chipping off edges, not sure how old it is but probably decades old. The Garcia had the best sound, least fret buzz (none, really), and was the nicest looking (maybe some finishing issues, but no chips in the wood that I could find) and came with a case that was distressed on the outside but pretty on the inside.
One reason I even tried out the Garcia despite reading negative stuff about the source-fraud issue, was that I read they came in different grades (no 1, 2 or 3) with No. 1 being the best. I thought maybe the best of the line might still be pretty good notwithstandng the source issues. Maybe that's true. Anyway, if I get some friends more knowledgeable about classical guitar to listen and rate this Garcia, I may post more info.
David Sack wrote at 2012-03-08 04:16:43
I was pleased to see how much everyone loves the sound and appearance of the Antonio Hernandis No. 1 guitars, even though I was surprised and dissapointed to find that they are unfortunately not worth nearly as much as I had imagined. I bought such a guitar in 1970 from a friend, presumably no newer than 1969, and have kept it for 40 years, mostly neglecting it for my steel string acoustic and electrics that came after. I took it out tonight for the first time in years to practice "the girl from Ipanima" and was struck by how well it sounds even after over 10 years without a string change. I guess I will follow the advice of your correspondent who told another that he would be far happier keeping the guitar for sentimental value no matter what it is worth.
chaplain george francis wrote at 2012-06-10 22:40:29
My Name is Chaplain George Francis. I am a Palliative Care (Hospice) Chaplain at Saint Joseph's Hospital in Tampa, Fl.I have used my Garcia 1973 (Feb) Grade 1 Sherry-Brenner Casa-Madrid. classical to provide bedside music for the terminally ill..Recently one of our Surgeons who is himself a Lutherier trained by the best, examined the guitar and said it was very nice..It is not an expensive guitar... However, I have not found any classical and i have played many for under $800.00 that sound nicer or play better...Therefore, I think it is a nice intermediate guitar worth used in excellent shape at least $400.00-$500.00.. it is most certainly comparable to Cordoba, Yamaha, or Romeriz in that price range.. also, the years of seasoning increase the tone.. it is very nice..firstname.lastname@example.org
Jon wrote at 2012-07-05 09:49:59
Hi: just read your answer regarding value of Garcia guitar. As you know, some of the Garcias were assembled in Spain. Jim Sherry contracted with a Japanese company to assemble those guitars around mid to late 1970. During the manufacturing transition,some of the guitars were apparently still being assembled in Spain in early 1970. If you look at the labels, you will see a progression of label types, starting with a single in early 1970, with no mention of Japan. In mid 1970,an additional label (showing wood origins and Japanese assembly) was added under the original label, and later a newer label, combining the previous 2 labels into a single label, was used. Considering the amount of time it would have taken to relocate the assembly process from Spain to Japan, and the progression of label revision, there is a good chance that the alleged deception was significantly overplayed and has continued to be by a certain "Expert" who sells a Garcia and Hernandis "Buyer's Guide" on E-Bay. I have two Garcia 2s and two Garcia 3s. One each of them were made in Spain, and there is no significant difference from the two that were assembled in Japan. The grade 3's are good student guitars and the grade 2's are significantly better. I am currently trying to find an affordable Hernandis 1A, as I have never heard anything negative about that guitar, and have read several comments from people who each own a Hernandis and a Ramiriz 1A, and the consensus is that the Hernandis has the better sound. The Garcia 1A is not far behind.
billy wrote at 2015-01-17 06:41:19
I sold a ton of Garcia's. Especially the Grade 1. They were our most popular CG. I could have bought anything & picked a magnificent Hernandis Grade 2. The Grade 1/1A's were also very nice, but I liked the 2 that I bought sometime in the 75-76 timeframe.
Forget the drama of any Sherry scandal... there's no scandal, just internet noice, I believe. Just listen to music and play a guitar.
John R. Hunt wrote at 2016-10-19 02:07:09
If You play thousands of Guitars and play for 52 years ,i say this because i am 62 and started playing . you are able to see truth and Know yes Know what is what. ok so so many people are hung up on NAME BRAND,,,,,Genuine,,,, what ever else you want to call it. i have played Memphis and Epiphone Copies that were far surperior to an Original Gibson and I have 3 original Gibsons my self Les Paul Recording ,Gibson SG 1964, ES335 Dot pattern also have Stratacasters 2 of but have found Squiers that serpass them. and I am the proud owner of a garcia 1973 and have played say 300 differant people s classical guitars that they put hundreds some thousands in to them and never found one that plays better than my Garcia,assimbled in Japan, Fender even admitted that Japan and tiwan copies were better than a USA made fender. it is all in the opinions and the musicians ability. years ago Curtis Mathas said we make the best and most expensive television sets on the market. that was a lie and hype too. eventally they were proven to be lying and you find then in trash piles now. ,but when you play guitar long enough you will know a quality sounding instrument and playing instrument when you play it reguardless of the reguardless of the reviews and opinions of other so called experts. if you are happy with your instrument for get others opinions and comparisons and rationalizing. if your happy with what you have enjoy and play it. quit letting others make you swim in a sea of nonsense