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Jim wrote at 2006-07-04 23:41:30
222's have a controlled substance in them - CODINE.


H wrote at 2006-07-20 00:32:56
I'm not what the 'mailing' implications are as they are sometimes different.  However, you are allowed one bottle of 222's per person bringing them across the border.  I actually called Custom's and asked when that zero tolerance stuff started years ago and people just assumed 222's were included.  I didn't want to get into trouble so I called and they told me you are allowed one bottle per person!  Just call and ask, they will tell you.  I get cramps and migraines and it's much cheaper than getting a prescription.  I certainly don't want to do anything illegal.  If in doubt, call and ask.


Arbaman wrote at 2006-09-18 23:38:49
222s contain Codeine, which is a controlled substance in the US.


p wrote at 2006-10-02 23:13:06
The problem with these 222's being shipped is that yes they are tylenol but they have codiene in them which while easily obtained in Canada im pretty sure is not legal in the US. I see that my answer is a few months late but incase anyone else stubles across I hope it helps.

Best of luck!


frequent traveller wrote at 2006-11-02 00:58:53
There is a class 1 narcotic in those pills called codeine.


Tup wrote at 2007-05-04 01:15:53
I'm not sure exactly why the pills were confiscated, but it probably has something to do with 222's containing codeine.


Frank wrote at 2007-06-09 20:24:03
I realize this question is two years old but I feel the need to add my 2 cents.



222's are illegal in the US. BUT the border will allow you to bring across 50 pills when you cross the border. That is the maximum. If you are caught bringing across more they will confiscate them. The result? They will contact local law inforcement and a report will be filed. What that means? I don't know. A fine and possibly jail time?



But again, that's for bringing them across with you. For sending via mail I don't know. I'd hesitate a guess of nothing happening. The recipient (who its illegal for) wasn't ordering them. And its not illegal for you.


Bev wrote at 2007-06-18 00:21:54
222's are a slang term for aspirin or tylonel with codeine--they are not legal to be shipped or brot into the USA.  You can legally buy them over the counter in Canada, but can't bring them back across the border into the USA.


jaffee wrote at 2007-08-21 23:32:31
222's have 8mg of codeine in there.  no wonder they were seized.  in canada we sell that over the counter though.  it's not 'just aspirin'.  ha!


Mark wrote at 2007-09-26 22:42:55
222s are not "just aspirin".  They contain codeine, which is a controlled substance in the U.S.


you know who wrote at 2007-10-16 01:31:16
222's have codeine in them. Here in the U.S.A you must have a PRESCRIPTION to get them.


Bluebell85 wrote at 2007-11-25 17:12:41
222's have codine which is illegal in USA unless you have a prescription, you can buy 50 per adult and legally bring them over the border right now. I don't know the repercussions of shipping them I would think it is a federal offense here but prob just a fine to you and yours.


anne wrote at 2007-11-25 23:29:55
My parents have been bringing 222's from Canada to the USA for years, because they are not sold in the USA. 222's actually contain aspirin, caffiene and codeine. Codeine is not available over the counter in the USA.



We have never had a problem and I'm not sure what the legal aspects are. However, I do recall that we there is a limit of 2 bottles per person and I think anything over that limit is considered more than "personal use", which I believe is the real legal issue. THey just don't what you to sell the stuff.


JM wrote at 2007-12-16 16:55:57
It's a little late for an answer, but the reason they were confiscated is that 222's are a mix of aspirin and 2% codeine. Codeine is a controlled substance in the US, available only with a prescription. Not that I would ever advocate it since it is illegal, but it is more common to buy them in Canada and drive them back across the border.


Sawyer wrote at 2008-02-12 21:58:44
The reason they were taken from you is because 222's are not you normal OTC Tylenol, they contain about 8% Codeine. In the US Codeine is only available by prescription. Where they are perfectly legal OTC pills in Canada in the US if you do not have a prescription to be taking these drugs then they cannot will not let them cross the border.


YL wrote at 2008-02-29 16:24:00
222's contain codeine.  In the United States, codeine is regulated by the Controlled Substances Act.  I think you have to have a prescription to obtain it.


me wrote at 2008-03-08 07:31:14
It's the Codeine that is in the 222's that are illegal with out perscription.


mrstan wrote at 2008-06-23 01:18:02
222's are not just tylenol.  The original 222's sold in Canada came out before tylenol, and those were a combination of aspirin, caffeine and codeine (yes, the narcotic).  It was something like 200 mg aspirin, 2mg caffeine and 2 something of codeine, ergo the name 222.  My guess is that the pills probably were seized due to the narcotic content.  Count your lucky stars that they just seized the drugs and are not trying to nail somebody for narcotic trafficing.


MrTruth wrote at 2008-07-09 14:55:33
222 is sold OTC in Canada and there are many other similar compounds sold world wide that are OTC too.  Only in the US will you be denied having access to these products because a group of ultra Liberals say it is a no-no.  8mg of codeine is nothing considering that the #3 Tylenol has 30mg with no caffeine. Next time you buy them, stick it in a regular tylenol or aspirin bottle.  At the border, they should be looking for human offal that want to kill us than a bottle of aspirin!


medspedld wrote at 2008-07-26 04:46:56
222's can be brought across the border from Canada to the U.S.  But you can only bring 50 pills per person.  I like them much better than Tylenol 3 (they give me a headache).


Anywayzz wrote at 2008-11-17 17:40:56
Tylenol 222's have CODEINE in them.  You must have a RX for codeine in the US, and in many other countries.


JavaJudy wrote at 2009-02-24 23:12:32
222's are not just Tylenol they also have codein in them which is illegal off the counter in the states.  You have to have a prescription for them.


energy wrote at 2009-05-09 15:56:46
No you do not need a script. I am from michigan and drive over there frequently to get them. The man at the customs window asked me why i was in canada and I told him to get 222's. I was going to show him the bag with the pills and he says it was ok and have a nice day. I dont know how many you can bring back though at one time I heard it was 100 or something. I dont know why people come on here talking about things they dont know about as if they are true. I have actually done this many times and so have friends.


Nightsihde wrote at 2009-05-18 15:56:18
Quoted from Border Security Website

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/kbyg/prohibited_restricted.xml#Medica



Medication

Rule of thumb: When you go abroad, take the medicines you will need, no more, no less.

Narcotics and certain other drugs with a high potential for abuse—Rohypnol, GHB, and Fen-Phen, to name a few — may not be brought into the United States, and there are severe penalties for trying to do so. If you need medicines that contain potentially addictive drugs or narcotics (e.g., some cough medicines, tranquilizers, sleeping pills, antidepressants, or stimulants), do the following:



   * Declare all drugs, medicinals, and similar products to the appropriate CBP official.

   * Carry such substances in their original containers.

   * Carry only the quantity of such substances that a person with that condition (e.g., chronic pain) would normally carry for his/her personal use.

   * Carry a prescription or written statement from your physician that the substances are being used under a doctor's supervision and that they are necessary for your physical well being while traveling.



U.S. residents entering the United States at international land borders, who are carrying a validly obtained controlled substance (other than narcotics such as marijuana, cocaine, heroin, or LSD), are subject to certain additional requirements. If a U.S. resident wants to bring in a controlled substance (other than narcotics such as marijuana, cocaine, heroin, or LSD) but does not have a prescription for the substance issued by a U.S.-licensed practitioner (e.g., physician, dentist, etc.) who is registered with, and authorized by, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to prescribe the medication, the individual may not import more than 50 dosage units of the medication into the United States. If the U.S. resident has a prescription for the controlled substance issued by a DEA registrant, more than 50 dosage units may be imported by that person, provided all other legal requirements are met.



Please note that only medications that can be legally prescribed in the United States may be imported for personal use. Be aware that possession of certain substances may also violate state laws. As a general rule, the FDA does not allow the importation of prescription drugs that were purchased outside the United States. Please see their Website for information about the enforcement policy for personal use quantities.



Warning: The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) prohibits the importation, by mail or in person, of fraudulent prescription and nonprescription drugs and medical devices. These include unorthodox “cures” for such medical conditions as cancer, AIDS, arthritis, or multiple sclerosis. Although such drugs or devices may be legal elsewhere, if the FDA has not approved them for use in the United States, they may not legally enter the country and will be confiscated, even if they were obtained under a foreign physician’s prescription.



For specifics about importing controlled substances, call (202) 307-9932. For additional information about traveling with medication, contact your nearest FDA office or write to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Division of Import Operations and Policy, Room 12-8 (HFC-170), 5600 Fishers Lane, Rockville, MD 20857.


rondroid wrote at 2009-06-19 01:15:29
We always bring them back from Canada. They work much better than OTC Tylenol besause they do have codeine in them and regular Tylenol basically sucks. All you people that were very quick to point that out, duh, everyone knows that already. Controlled substance, who cares, they work and should be OTC here in the states.

Just because there's a law in this God-Forsaken country doesn't mean we have to follow it. If they make it illegal to drink coffee I'm sure you'll all quit tomorrow, right?



Get real


louis wrote at 2009-08-31 06:57:38
Codeine is not a control substance in the U.S., not in the way most of these letters are implying.. If you read the laws you'll see that 15mg and more of Codeine is controlled... Under that amount and the Feds don't care. At 8mg it's up to the individual States and individual pharmacies to decide what they wish to do..

I'm guessing that because of the added paper work (already more than the rest of the world) almost none bother with it. I've heard reports, off the chat lines, that there are rare pharmacies around Idaho, Indiana, and somewhere in the New Jersey vicinity that will sell Tylenol-1..


DavePaveTheWave wrote at 2009-12-29 00:46:30
I just crossed legally and simply asked a border guard about it after reading the cpb.gov website. She told me that 50 pills is the maximum, which is what the website says.   I crossed from Victoria to Port Angeles, broght 100 pills between my wife and I, and presented the bottle to the border agent on the US side when the ferry arrived, and he also was fine with it.   So, the websiote and two different guards were all in agreement.   50 pills per person.   Any conflicting statements are not true.


Buddma wrote at 2010-02-23 20:14:08
I just came from Vancouver by train and the US immigration agents in Van. questioned the amount I was taking with me, which was 200 according to the pharmacist, the agents took the pharmacy name and number down and copied the reciept and my declaration card and let me board the train.  Upon entering the US the train stopped and the customs agents boarded and took my declaration card, I declared the 222 and they asked me how many I had, i told them 200 which they then corrected me and told me that I could only have 50, but let me go warning me that the State of Washington may have issues if I'm found with it.  


BAKE wrote at 2010-04-19 16:21:58
I JUST CAME FROM VANCOVER AND 222 CAN BE BROUGHT INTO THE USA 50 PER PERSON. THEY FIT WE'LL IN A ASPRIN BOTTLE MY AND LOOK LIKE ASPRIN. I HAD NO ISSUES. HOWEVER IN THE US, DO NOT GET CAUGHT WITH THEM AS THEY ARE CLASS 1. WHICH IS A FELONY JUST A HEADS UP.


dmaxx wrote at 2010-05-17 14:41:58
it is not a class one felony. whoever tells you this has no clue what they are talking about. if you were to illegally obtain them it would be a felony, but buy buying them legally and bringing them to the US in the amount specified you are breaking no law what so ever. it is no different than getting a prescription from a dr and possessing tylenol 3's except that you do not need a prescription for this. tylenol 3's have 24mg of codeine and 222's have 8mg. it is not required to have a prescription to buy them. it isn't as though you are trying to bring a banned substance across, such as cuban cigars or cocaine.


A&C Guy wrote at 2010-10-22 15:11:44
If you are in Canada buying 222's save yourself a few bucks by going to Walmart and asking the pharmacist for AC&C - they will not be on display but the pharmacist will give them to you.  Same thing as a 222 but generically branded and you can get a bottle of 200 (I think about $12cdn) if you want.  I buy a bottle to keep on hand when some chronic pain flairs up occasionally.


Dragon wrote at 2010-10-22 18:56:12
I use to live in Michigan and get them all the time. I have been stopped with them in my possession. I was where and how I got them. I was honest and said in Canada and I did delcare them coming across the border and I was let go with the 222's. Mostly it is how you obtained them and whether they were declared coming into the US. It is legal for 50 per person per trip ONLY if you declare them at the border. If you do not declare them then it is illegal.


aquarianne wrote at 2011-03-04 04:05:43
I just came back from a sub of Montreal.  My daughter had to buy the 222 for me and buy the way they are kept behind the pharmacy counter.  The pharmacist asked her her name, address, phone number date of birth and any allergies she may have,,,, this purchase will be added to her dossier.  SO, it is not has easy to get as people make it sound.  Not around Montreal anyway.


DeeBags wrote at 2011-04-25 22:00:03
I just crossed the Blaine Truck crossing and had 200. I was told that I had 2 choices. 1) I could proceed and they would have washington patrol arrest me for a class C felony. 2) turnaround and get rid of them in Canada. I did the later. Thanks for keeping our borders safe from headaches.(heavy sarcasm)


Burrell, Bellingham Wa. wrote at 2011-05-21 19:39:13
Just barley made it back in with 250. She made a note in my file and confirmed the 50 only rule. Kinda snarky but she set me go.  


hootennany wrote at 2012-02-23 07:06:44
Live close to the Canadian border, and I've been buying 222 and mersydol and bringing back to the us for years. It IS NOT against the law. The limit last time I went over was a "three month" supply


Mlmchitown wrote at 2012-07-15 02:47:31
I just bight them over the counter in Montreal (100 ct). I did not even think to declare them and carried them through in my purse-- no issue.


bgwlsw wrote at 2012-10-26 15:18:55
Bringing 222's into the US is something that you have to decide for yourselves.  If you declare them at the border, you are subject to the person's whim if they even check the law - which could be changing.  If you put them in your suitcase and in your toiletries bag, there are no questions even if you drive or fly.  I suggest that you make the decision on your own on whether you declare or not.




Michael K,from CT. wrote at 2014-12-12 04:33:32
My ex-wife and I used to go to Canada twice every summer.Always Niagara Falls in Ontario,the other trip we would drive to Quebec Province,usually somewhere just outside of Montreal.The last time was in 1994.I know for a fact,that then you could purchase a bottle of 222's-which contained 325 mg. of Aspirin,8 mg.of Codeine Phosphate,and 15 mg. of Caffeine(my guess is that it would offset the depressant effects of the codeine,if one were to attempt to ingest a large quantity of codeine).I have purchased a pkg of these for my headaches each time we went up there.There were 24,50, and 100- ct pks.You were also able to purchase Tylenol#1 with Codeine tabs.Both of these were sold without a prescription,but were stocked on a back shelf accessible only to the pharmacist.I recall another O.T.C.Codeine product,in the form of a cough syrup.It was only 6 mg of Codeine,but also contained Phenylpropanolamine(nasal decongestant),and Chlorpheniramine Maleate(antihistamine).When taking I-87 North into Canada,from New York,in the very first Canadian town(In Province of Quebec),there's a small independant pharmacy.The pharmacist there had told me that he has"several" American customers,from as far south,as Albany,that come up once a month for one or more of the 250-ct. Tylenol #1 bottles.I don't think U.S. Customs will tear your car apart looking for what amounts to an exempt-Narcotic,here in the states.No,those specific products are NOT available here in the states,but in New Jersey,and Ohio,and perhaps other states?, you can still ask the pharmacist for a bottle of Robitussin AC,or DAC. Residents are allowed one (4) oz bottle of the preparation every 72 hrs,but must sign an exempt-narcotic log book,with name,age,and address in order to obtain it-similar rules apply now to buying Sudafed,or anything containing Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride-thanks to the meth heads!


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